ECG1000

NOW SOLD

All boxed up and ready to go on 24 hour delivery...

Honestly there's no drone at all on these once they're warmed up. From cold there's drone around the 3000rpm area. After 5 minutes the drone stops and turns into a creamy V6 shriek. When cruising on the motorway, you wouldn't know the exhaust is there until you put your foot down.

For sale are my Cybox Short Tails for the 370z. I've sold my 370z now so don't need these anymore. They were only on the car for about 5 months so are in very good condition. The tips are slash-cut and tapered, giving a nice OEM finish. In the foreground of the picture below is a long bar with some exhaust clamps either end. I welded this together to use to space the pipes out evenly in the bumper. To adjust it, you just spin the turnbuckle. The black stuff either end is spray paint to prevent the welds from rusting. The pipes sit pretty evenly on their own, I'm just a bit of a perfectionist! Cheapest way to make the 370z sound like it should. Here's a Youtube example: £SOLD

A possibility, but quite a big investment if I end up selling up.

I live in the countryside down a lane. I couldn't have the Zed in the garage and a 2nd car clogging up the driveway. If I kept it in the lane, a tractor would eat it for breakfast. It is very tempting to go for a dedicated track car but I like the idea of having a car for all purposes. Nice to be able to drive to the track, have some fun, then drive back home again.

I'm starting to think I need to make space for 2 cars now! Wonder if can hide one in a warehouse at work....

Always wanted one of these but have been frightened off by all the horror stories! I don't have the space for 2 cars really. That does seem like a cool idea actually. Only £2000 for a rebuild? Would have thought it was more than that?

It would frustrate me having to restrain myself and not be able to use the car properly. Dribbling along in a car that requires speed to come alive can take the shine off ownership a bit, for me anyway. I think with the '86, you can have fun at lower speeds. When you use all the revs, you're not actually going as fast as you think. I haven't done any track days in the 370 in fear of shredding my tyres and burning the oil. Wanting a GT is a mixture of having a car that's fun all year round and one that's cheap to run in terms of tyres and brakes. I'd ideally like to do one every month or so. Won't being going for times, just a good tear about. I've done a good amount before, but not in the Zed. That is a help, thank you. Did you have trouble with the oil getting too hot? What about tyres and brakes?

That's kind of my point. I will literally be pootling everywhere barely stretching the Zeds legs, not getting the most out of that car.

That's my main worry. Now I've got used to it, I think I'd miss the torque quite a lot! However, a couple owners I've spoken to over on Piston Heads do say you get used to the lower power after a while. The whole car just clicks with you and makes sense as a package. Funnily enough, these two had 350's before. First world problems and all that....

And how will that be more fun on track than the 370? Seriously, look at the cost to change and what two TDs will cost you in terms of tyres and brakes, and I reckon you could easy spend £3K on a track-spec MX5. Hell, my MR2 only cost me £4K with the turbo conversion and I can promise you that will show any BRZ86 or 370 in sensible (i.e. not stripped) road trim a clean set of heels. Depends on what you want though, I can see the pluses to having a road car that you track, as opposed to a track car that can go on the road. I've not driven either on the track so can't speak from experience. I'm guessing with the '86 being lighter, it'll be more chuckable and having those Primacy tyres on, adjustable at lower speeds. To change, it would cost me (for the spec/year I'm looking at) at the most £1000. From what I've read the tyres last quite a long time and are cheap, same with the brakes. £3000-£4000 on a track toy isn't really viable unless I had the space and a company car for daily duties.

I know they're slower than a Zed in a straight line and probably on the track. In the real world, down a B-road there isn't that much in it. Track times aren't really that important to me, having fun is. I would be going for a low miler, '13 plate for around the £17,800 mark. Wouldn't really have to spend much at all on top of the sale/trade price for my Zed. Getting a 2nd car to track isn't really an option for me. I don't have the space. It would also end up being quite expensive after getting a suitable car and setting it up properly. Anything front wheel drive wouldn't really interest me much anyway. I had a Clio 200 before which I tracked, great fun but rear wheel drive is the way forward for me now. I like the idea of having a car that does the daily duties but can then be thrashed round a track and driven back home at the end of the day (provided you haven't bent it ). I'm perfectly capable of handling the immense power. What I'm trying to say is when you put your foot down in a Zed, you're going to pick up speed very quickly. As you know, when the roads are cold and wet, this can be dangerous. Therefore, I think I'll get frustrated pootling from A to B every day not using the car for what it was made for. In a GT86, you put your foot down and it takes longer to pick up speed. Similar to hire car syndrome, you can be thrashing it and having the time of your life, but not actually going that fast...

Whilst this is true, I rather avoid all the faff of changing cars again! Want to try and make the right decision in the first place. Yeah, they don't feel quite as snug as the Zed and there's no Bose. The power isn't a match to the Zeds but you can make good progress if you wring it's neck. Not as easy to make brisk progress using the Zed's torque though. What about the costs of track days? If I did get one, it would be straight to Litchfield for a full exhaust system, de-CAT and remap. Possible super charge in the future depending on how long I would keep it...

I've had my 370 for 6 months now and love it. It looks the business, goes like stink and having fitted a pair of Cybox short tails, sounds pretty mean as well. I'm getting itchy feet to swap to a GT86 for a few reasons: 1) I'd like to experience as many decent cars as possible. 2) Don't want to be driving the Zed around day to day in the imminent sh!tty weather. It will be very frustrating not being able to drive the car hard when it gets cold and slippery. It will also irritate me trying to keep it clean. I find it an event every morning/evening having a b-road blast to/from work or the gym. I think winter will take the shine off this a bit when I can't deploy full power. 3) The main reason is the fact I like doing track days. I haven't done any in the 370 due to the cost. I'm pretty confident the '86 will be a fair bit cheaper to maintain if I do a track day every month or so. If anything goes wrong, it's mostly covered by warranty. I could replace all four tyres on an '86 for the same price as a pair of rears on the 370. With the car being heavier, I'd imagine brake pads are going to need replacing at greater cost, more frequently. Then there's the thought of needing an oil cooler as well.... For point 2, I guess you could say I can buy a cheap and cheerful runaround from an auction and garage the Zed over the winter. This is quite tempting but it doesn't really solve the track day issue. Plus, I'd have to insure and tax another car then. You could also say that if I did get an '86 I would be just as frustrated driving that in the winter conditions. With 120bhp less than the Zed, I'd think I could use most of the power more often and not worry too much. I think the '86 looks pretty good dirty as well. Probably the that's made me think that! Am I being pedantic about the track day theory of point 3? There's a lot a talk about the GT86's boxer engine being very flat and uninspiring. I've driven my mate's which has the 2nd CAT deleted, CAT-back exhaust and a remap. This feels way more perky and eager than a stock model and is enjoyable to thrash. A Zed would still blitz it in a straight line... I think that's the main thing I'd miss about the Zed. Got so much grunt. Each car has it's own merits though. In an ideal world I'd have a 2nd car dedicated for track work/fast road, but I need one car that does everything. Anyway, sorry for the massive essay! Thoughts appreciated.