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Wait what I didn't say the release date price of the gtr has anything to do with the nsx price Also isn't the bmw 360bhp and having a quick Google for the new nsx Honda haven't released the bhp officially yet ? With its Honda badge it will depreciate like a rock compared with I8

so sure i said for it to be successful it needs to be around the 50k mark, the gtr and the i8 are very successful at there released retail price the two people that car can hit misses both markets imo the cheap fast supercar guy will get the gtr not the nsx, The rich guy wanting a sporty everyday hybrid will buy a bmw over a honda yes there will be people that will buy it but to me its been marketed and priced in a area thats already taken

so i can buy a GTR and when its released a tesla model 3 for the price of an nsx

so 80k of gtr or 110k of NSX is the NSX really worth 30k more? and of course the 2nd line has Merit if im going buy 100k of car i want to feel like im sitting in 100k of car not 30k of hot hatch

GTR starts at £78k i would have thought after the first one they would learn the mistake of out pricing itselfs

well for a start it doesnt look like a civic coupe from behind the dash looks like it came from a civic its just not unique enough for me and isnt that like saying why is a 3 series worth more than accord Edit; just noticed the floor mats dont even fit

if i want a hybrid for around 100k it would be this, yes not as fast but if i want fast i wont buy a hybrid

£130k ish for the v10+ At that point i would prefer the NSX. 600 bhp, pushrod suspension, active aero, top speed over 200 and looks stunning, not sure how that can be disappointing, regardless of no V8?? Agree about the Supra/FT 1, absolutely in my eyes the most awesome looking thing. Yea it needs to be £50k to be competitive for what it is an hybrid honda at the end of the day and your going to have to explain no its not a honda insight its a supercar to people who dont know about cars its bit like a £300k Lexus lfa or a £300k toyota gt86 XL (if they had called it something like that) 1 had a lot more value just in the brand it may be a good car but because of the brand the only people interested in it at that price will be honda/jdm fan boys who if im honest most couldnt afford the new civic type r let alone a super car, IMO It will flop, in Europe anyway. A hybrid Honda with 550hp (rumoured), loads of modern tech, low weight (no figures yet), hybrid system similarly used to the P1's and you can be damn sure it will be quick and handle like a dream, all for £50k...........Even a GTR is £80k+ and you want all that for £30k less?? You only have to look at the other hybrid supercars to see this in theory is a bargain, if you like that sort of thing. The LFA is a bit of a red herring really, supposed to be stunning to drive, sure it wants to be at that money, but it was a technical show piece and nothing more, a lot like the Veyron. Your probably right about it being a flop over here though, but even the original went down like a pork pie at a bar mitsvah over its ten year sales, 400 total in the UK. didnt say i want it for that i said people the average people on the street dumping 100k in a car wont want that, to stand a chance it needs to be so cheap

Yea it needs to be £50k to be competitive for what it is an hybrid honda at the end of the day and your going to have to explain no its not a honda insight its a supercar to people who dont know about cars its bit like a £300k Lexus lfa or a £300k toyota gt86 XL (if they had called it something like that) 1 had a lot more value just in the brand it may be a good car but because of the brand the only people interested in it at that price will be honda/jdm fan boys who if im honest most couldnt afford the new civic type r let alone a super car, IMO It will flop, in Europe anyway.

prices are per wheel but for SSR wheels they are cheap

one of his famous friends must be about to loan him a few quid for a month of tax

and an aftermarket intake

if they received the documents in December you dont get that month as its full months you get paid for i think

100% Bargain cant wait for pay day

i cant see no grey s13

Its hardly the "spirit" though, youve said that yourself. And its all about the "spirit", right Steve? no i thought it was all about being in a 1940s car aslong as thats tuned and built for driving fast in straight lines on a budget, and is for drag racing aslong as it only looks like 1 type of car because it didnt matter its style but now it does and it cant look a certain way, Infact it can be built really expensive and with custom paint and wheels and interior, o wait no no it must be a light weight car thats space framed and built to a budget again, and it can only drive fast in a straight line if it handles nope not one, i cant keep up doc what is a hot rod at this minute For me building a car in the spirit of an traditional hot rod would mean a big powerplant in a light chassis thats made to go fast, built for as little as possible styling isnt factor Does this mean someone building a sema build hot rod isnt building a hot rod no its just not a traditional one in the same way someone who builds a big mustang drift car is still building a drift car its just not traditional one doesnt stop it being a drift car but in the same way the frs/gt86 is built & designed in the spirit of the ae86 same principles completely different styling,age,technology

Yes says it all "So is this a drift car or a drag car? According to Takuro, it’s a “tuning carâ€. Basically, he just likes messing around with things, so there’s no real goal behind it apart from seeing if it can be done"

Totally missing the point, the Hachi is a perfect example of a Hot Rod - home built with one purpose in mind, the GT86's are racecars built with endless chequebooks so arent. are you forgetting chip foose builds his sema car with endless chequebooks, i think your missing my point

Errrr' date=' there? And seeing as Im beating on the 240, brand new Brembos, KW Clubsports and LS3 swaps are not "on the cheap" - Clubsports are £1500 alone, you can buy a whole S13 for that! I struggle to think of many S13 owners in the UK that have a spec anything like that and its not just because LS3's are cheap in the states. Skyline brakes, secondhand HSD's and an SR20 on an S13 and youre a lot closer to "the spirit" IMO, all these guys are doing is dropping sweet parts on a JDM classic. [/quote'] didnt say that hot rod has to be that i said how the original ones where made its like the difference between Both drift cars but the originals doing up in the mountains werent doing it £150k builds in the same way the original 50s lads where doing it scrap and foose is building $200k sema cars ive not once said what a hot rod cant be, ive said what i can be thats the difference

Just to take on another debated could you really do all the above for about $4000 as on ebay america a LS3 is about $4000, if it possible to do all of that for $4000? a quick look at Sr20DET on ebay america is about $1500-$2000 so leaves $2000-$2500 for a larger turbo intercooler, space framing etc If you can thats awesome and be 100% as reliable and Legal ie Catalytic converters etc as an Ls3

So the Foose megabuck chequebook cars arent Hot Rods then? Once again: Find one post where i have said that? you said hotrods arnt fancy expensive builds not me Cheap cars made fast, correct me if im wrong but is that not what it was about in the 1950s

Hot Rod you know what i meant

The first perosn actually saying what a hot hod HAS to be was you

Yup, and I paid the bill with pixie dust i heard it was sexual favors