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Fast road/Track 350z 3.7ltr HR built
350Butcher replied to 350Butcher's topic in Member Build Projects
Cheers! Thanks for the link.......I've meant to buy one of them for ages, more for the tyres than the brakes but good for checking everything inc brakes to diff too Think I need a link to all your car cleaning stuff too after seeing your car next to mine!! -
Glad you're happy with the new chassis set up! With that and 700hp in place you have created and build a true weapon!! I honestly can't imagine my car with double the horsepower and torque......what an incredible build! " All in all very very fast car and dangerous if not respected" ........so so true I'm sure!
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That's good, drop us a pm when you're booking something up, would be good to come along too and check it out. Sensible re suspension, cant buy off the shelf stuff when its not an off the shelf car! Be interesting to see how different it is from before and how the distribution is. Thanks for the info on the pedal, good to know its doable and pretty straight forward......I'm sure throttle bodies are years away if at all due to the £££ involved but nice to have the plan together should I ever go down that route
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Fast road/Track 350z 3.7ltr HR built
350Butcher replied to 350Butcher's topic in Member Build Projects
Drivers side finished up! I'm quite happy how its turned out......plenty of air and subtly installed Apologies for the state of the car!! When its back on the floor it'll be getting a wash!! -
Fast road/Track 350z 3.7ltr HR built
350Butcher replied to 350Butcher's topic in Member Build Projects
Cheers! I don't think there's a route from the reflector and I'm not sure how much air you'd get through there but everything's possible! Smaller washer bottles and custom intakes to install on the reflector mounts and I'm sure you could get it to work. -
More good progress Ross! Shame about the clutch bleeding agro, hope you get that sorted with the new one. You planning on tracking yours? Be good to see this when its running. Not looked into it at all but if I do go down the throttle bodies route one day then I'll need to install a cable throttle. Does the S13 pedal fit straight up or is it part 350z part S13 you need to use?
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Fast road/Track 350z 3.7ltr HR built
350Butcher replied to 350Butcher's topic in Member Build Projects
Brake ducting then?! This is my go at it and my opinions on it.......feel free to offer up ideas and opinions of your own, I wont be offended and would welcome the input. After my latest run at Donington it was immediately apparent that some cooling was required! After looking and looking online it seems there's a lot of discussion with very few doing it. After crawling under the Z I think the reasons are fairly obvious why and its that there is no easy way to run it. Something like the Stillen setup available for the 370z is the way I wanted to go but sadly the 350z doesn't have either the access available around the inner arch/chassis leg nor the space to run the ducting through to the hub as the arb is mounted far higher and above the lower wishbone unlike the 370's which is under giving a passage through. Every idea I had and route I created was OK till I started turning to full lock then the ducting would touch and the ducting would be torn apart! With ducting all the way to the center of the disc looking impossible I thought I'd just try and get a lot of air flowing to inside and through the wheel to expel all the hot air that sits in there and cooks the brakes. I have ordered some AP temp strips to stick on the calipers to see how hot they are getting on track (meant to do this before so I had a comparison but forgot!) 2 things I wanted to achieve were, I didn't want to mount the ducting to parts with lots of movement where it would rub through etc I wanted the intakes to be forward facing for maximum air flow.......sounds simple on the front of a car! However a lot of inlets I've seen are on the outer edges of the bumper and as the bumper is swept back at this point the air is moving sideways across the inlet and not directly into it. So.....I stripped the car down and started to make something. Only place I could find that I could find to mount the inlets that would take air directly through the front grill was in the very bottom corners of the front panel. Passenger side was a little tricky with the oil cooler mounted there and required a little cut out to work but they're in With intakes in I wanted to mount a bracket to hold the ducting outlet as close as possible and also maintain air flow during use of the car. My idea was to create a mount that would attach to the arb's drop link mount (with the eibach bars there's 2 holes which is a benefit) this way as the suspension moves through it travel it would stay flowing air inside the wheel and not in sometimes and others just blowing the tyre etc On full lock as close as possible.......be OK clearance once bracket is trimmed and finished And finally hook up some ducting! I used 76mm ducting, the route is very short goes dead straight with only 1 swept bend to aim air inside the wheel and at brakes so the loses in flow will be minimal. It doesn't touch anything and I'll be able to trim the plastic trims where needs be and drill a hole either side of the ducting just to run a zip tie around to secure and support it. What do people think?? Its been a real pig of a job so I hope it does the business! Its a lot of air that it didn't have before flowing through the wheel so I'm confident that it'll keeps temps down but I'll have my AP temp strips on the brakes when it goes to Spa next month and I'll keep an eye on things that nothing moves, rubs etc and see how it goes.............just the passenger side to make now!! -
Fast road/Track 350z 3.7ltr HR built
350Butcher replied to 350Butcher's topic in Member Build Projects
Well I've come up with something so I'll get some info and pics up soon. A lot of what I've seen I'd be surprised if it'll still be on the car after a trip out on track and would definitely contact the tyre on full lock which both issues I'm trying to not have! The Z's front end is not the kindest to find a route through and the suspension setup and arb location cut off all options too.....not ideal then! Very jealous! It looks like a really cool drop/corner. We did the GP which that section is rubbish cos you drive out just to drive back again and all to miss out a great corner complex! It was all that was available when we were though and I really wanted to tick the Anglesey box.........plus its a good reason to go again Glad you got the fuse out and enjoyed the car/day/track........too much heat is not normally something you need to worry about in North Wales! Don't know anything about them but sure I've only read good reviews from people with them, although its worth checking what uses people are reviewing them for drifting or track work. Its a bit of extra work involved with installing the FD as the diff gets fully rebuilt with clearances and mesh between pinion gear and crown wheel all need setting etc which actually sounds harder than it is you just need a few of the right tools and some common sense about it all to make sure its to tolerance. I installed a 1-way OS Giken superlock with OEM Nissan 3.9FD and bearings, seals etc........together they make really good gains in the car on track and are silent during road work too -
Different manufacturers measure up differently which makes this sometimes harder to work out but I have 255/40 front and 265/40 rear Yokohama AD08R tyres on 18" wheels and there is no issue with the tc at all
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Just caught up a bit with this........nice, clean Z! You're not alone with hating others touching your care, no one seems to take the same care as you do with it! Especially windscreens when they bring out the chisel to get off all the sealant and the paint along with it!! Re AD08R tyres, I run 255/40 front and 265/40 on 18's with no issue with tc etc at all.......in case you fancied a bit more tyre up front
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Looks smart! What front lip is that?
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Fast road/Track 350z 3.7ltr HR built
350Butcher replied to 350Butcher's topic in Member Build Projects
I was a bit concerned about additional back pressure with these things clamped on but I honestly can't say the car feels noticeably slower or any less responsive with or without but they do drop me from 102Db to under 98Db so they do the business I looked into a bespoke exhaust to meet these latest strictest noise limits more commonly found at track venues these days but when it was around £1500+vat I thought I'll stick with these little bolt ons! One day maybe! -
Cars looking great! Bad luck with that spring failing, not the sort of thing you expect but you definitely have the kind of friends we all want that turn around a fix so quickly for you!! Looks like you've added a few spares to the order.......always a good move!
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Fast road/Track 350z 3.7ltr HR built
350Butcher replied to 350Butcher's topic in Member Build Projects
I'm on it as the brakes need it desperately, all the bits arrive tomorrow and hopefully I'll get something installed over the weekend. I will post pics up of what I end up with.........lets hope it works and its pretty, there's plenty in the way!! Great track! What layout did you do? I want to go back and do the coastal as the GP cuts out what looks like one of the best bits....the cork screw. Glad you got the fuse out, makes a big difference doesn't it? Love the fast right that sweeps up the hill to that big stop for the blind 90 left! Good choices! Any idea which diff you're gonna go with? Would highly recommend looking at swapping the final drive at the same time as diff install too. -
Fast road/Track 350z 3.7ltr HR built
350Butcher replied to 350Butcher's topic in Member Build Projects
To be fair I've had terrible evening sessions there too! A million idiots causing red flags literally every other lap, drives me mad..........but this one was as good as it gets! I have to quieten my car from its 102Db drive by for Donington and use a pair of Decibel Devils that were recommended by RobPhoboS. Bought from www.advantage-motorsport.co.uk they do the business very well...........admittedly not too pretty so for full time solution added silencers would be better. Think I'm right in saying the end trims are removable on the invidia so you can buy the smaller Db Devil and clamp it straight on to the pipes so it's a little nicer than my huge ones that have to go over the trims! -
Fast road/Track 350z 3.7ltr HR built
350Butcher replied to 350Butcher's topic in Member Build Projects
Cheers! Donington is such a great track to have quiet like this and string a few laps together at Tyres are Yokohama AD08R's -
Fast road/Track 350z 3.7ltr HR built
350Butcher replied to 350Butcher's topic in Member Build Projects
So after the disappointment of Cadwell and the fog situation I went ahead and booked on to an evening session at Donington Park last week with BookaTrack and with perfect weather and about 20 cars booked on it was great to string a few laps together and finally give the brakes a try out...........well they're definitely an improvement offering huge stopping power gains over previous setup (which was already pretty good!) and contributed to knocking 1.5secs off my previous best lap with a 1min25.00secs (think I would've got in to the 1:24's too but I lifted off before the line on my last quick lap which is pretty annoying). Only issue now is the heat!! The car was stinking like never before of hot metal.......so I have now ordered some ducting as my next job to give them a nice feed of cool air to keep temps under control. -
Great progress Ross! Be driving down the road soon!
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Coventry Motofest - Sunday 3rd June *Club Stand
350Butcher replied to davey_83's topic in National Events & Shows
Good to meet and chat cars with you guys today! Sorry I lost you while catching up with others but hopefully catch you again at future meets Great show with some very nice cars..............and the weather was good! -
Fast road/Track 350z 3.7ltr HR built
350Butcher replied to 350Butcher's topic in Member Build Projects
Couple of things I forgot to write..... Firstly, now I've done a bit of driving since swapping out the shifter/detent springs in the 'box, I definitely think there is an improvement to the shift. Its very slightly firmer, more positive and just a more quality shift. Around town I honestly don't think you'd notice but when rushing through the 'box during fast road or track work. Secondly, I bought myself a Tonwon Bluetooth OBD adaptor, so I could a ) pair it with Harry's Laptimer for overlaying info to my track vids and b ) I downloaded the app auto doctor so I could monitor a few things just out of interest. One thing of interest was the intake temps, as like everyone I'd heard about the heat soaking through the use of the Stillen Gen 3 long tube intakes. I was giving some thought to wrapping them or coating them. When the car was sat the temps did rise up and especially when returning after use they were high, but that's not when I need to make power! When driving and even on track the temps sat at 3-4degrees above ambient always which I was very happy about! On a dyno maybe the temps are higher than with standard air boxes.....which is why mapping live is best...... and going down the road or round the track where it matters these intakes do work very well. -
Coventry Motofest - Sunday 3rd June *Club Stand
350Butcher replied to davey_83's topic in National Events & Shows
That would be great, thanks. Yes, will be at the petrol station for 8.............sharp! -
Coventry Motofest - Sunday 3rd June *Club Stand
350Butcher replied to davey_83's topic in National Events & Shows
Sorry guys, I am rubbish at computers! Could you let me know how I make the vehicle pass go from your post to out my printer? Cheers -
Coventry Motofest - Sunday 3rd June *Club Stand
350Butcher replied to davey_83's topic in National Events & Shows
Is this not just a park up thing then? Do we get to do a fast run round the ring road? -
Coventry Motofest - Sunday 3rd June *Club Stand
350Butcher replied to davey_83's topic in National Events & Shows
I can manage a squeeze so put my name down and I’ll meet you at the service station at 8 cheers -
Coventry Motofest - Sunday 3rd June *Club Stand
350Butcher replied to davey_83's topic in National Events & Shows
If is OK to join you, I’ll come along? What time does it run till in case I need to leave a bit earlier than the end? Or are we boxed in till late?