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Maybe some, maybe none but since there is absolutely no way of knowing one way or the other isn't it better to take the threats seriously and act on them? Freedom of speech is not freedom to say anything you want regardless of the consequences for other people.

Couldn't agree more. I'm not what you'd call a leftie, hippie or whatever (although I do go a bit overboard about animal cruelty I suppose but my own view is that there must be some sort of insecurity in a small proportion of men which makes them feel especially threatened by women who dare to express an opinion they don't understand or agree with. I couldn't really care less whether Jane Austen appears on the back of a bank note and I can't understand why anyone would get so wound up about it that they feel the need to threaten to kill and rape somebody! I personally think it boils down to lack of education, lack of inteliigence, and knowing deep down that they are incredibly inadequate people.

So to be clear - you don't think there is anything wrong with threatening to rape and kill someone if it's done online? Would you feel the same if the threats were directed to your wife, daughter, mother etc? No, I thinks its abhorrent to make threats like that to anyone, particularly a girl/lady. However, Im more in favour of keeping freedom of speech than introducing laws that will have to be based on very shaky and probably dynamic definitions. Ive no doubt you are familiar with this case: http://www.bbc.co.uk...ngland-19009344, that pretty much sums it all up for me - guy makes obvious joke, gets arrested on terror charges, banned from airports for life, loses job, loses girlfriend and spends 2 years of his life fighting a ridiculous charge that eventually gets chucked out of court. Fair enough - thanks for clearing up your view. I don't think that example is the same though. I believe in freedom of speech but freedoms carry with them responsibilities. It's already illegal to threaten people with violence etc and I don't see why being behind a keyboard should be any different. Expressing views is one thing but threatening people is another. I don't think we need new laws but I do think it's worth asking the question (which interestingly not many people have commented on) why people feel the need to behave in this way towards a woman who, as far as I can see, did nothing wrong.

So to be clear - you don't think there is anything wrong with threatening to rape and kill someone if it's done online? Would you feel the same if the threats were directed to your wife, daughter, mother etc?

I agree that the threats probably wouldn't amount to anything but I just don't really get why anyone would feel the need to make them at all - real or not. I can't really see what she did wrong.

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But isn't that the whole problem? The reaction to her was not equal. I'm no expert on the subject but I don't think feminists are known for threatening to rape and kill people who disagree with them. And as far as I know, she didn't say "all men are rubbish therefore please put a woman on a bank note". She just campaigned for a woman on the back of a bank note. I agree that most people don't really care about it but isn't the sane reaction to not caring about something to do nothing? The only positive thing about this as far I'm concerned is that a lot of men stood up for her. It's possible to be a normal bloke and not assume that all feminists are anti-men.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23559605 OK so I don't use Twitter or Facebook, but I get how they work. What I don't get (and I like to think I'm a fairly normal bloke) is why these men got so incredibly angry and vicious towards a woman just because she campaigned to have Jane Austen on a bank note. Apart from the obvious answer - they're morons - what do you reckon causes this sort of behaviour?

Thanks for your thoughts. I've been dithering over spacers for months and to be honest I think springs and spacers looks great on your car, but with £1K for new tyres looming my budget for mods is limited for now. I will probably get the spacers put on just before the tyres and then get the alignment checked. I'll post some pics when I do.

Ouch....that's why I have my lights on even when it's only slightly dull outside.

Interesting post. Do you folks think it's worth fitting spacers without springs? I'm not sure I want to lower the car but I do like the idea of filling out the arches a bit more with some 25m spacers. ,

I found it hard to get them exactly in sync - they are the same but one changes to the next minute before the other. Wouldn't expect them to lose time like that though.

Nice. I will keep an eye out for you

Very very unlikely in this country - none of the major political parties would support it - it's too much of political hot potato. I would prefer to see the use of more full life terms. To be told that you will never be free to walk the streets again would be a fitting punishment for particularly brutal crimes and at least leave the opportunity for miscarriages of justices to be put right.

I second the recommendation for Dodo Supernatural - great stuff.

I don't have and have never wanted children but that doesn't stop me being disgusted by what these people did. Having said that I don't really agree that the death penalty is the best solution. It seems simple and obvious in these sorts of cases but there is plenty of evidence form the U.S.A that significant numbers of people have been killed for crimes they did not commit. It also disproportionately affects people from poor and ethnic backgrounds who end up being assigned crappy third rate lawyers and don't get a proper defence. As vile as this case is, I don't believe that it's worth the risk of killing a single innocent person to bring back the death penalty.

But surely at 160+ mph in a car he didn't own he might well have not been capable of avoiding another car or lorry if he did come across one? It's probably fair to say that most people have exceeded the speed limit to a degree but that's a pretty extreme example!

The solution to going too fast is simple - put my other half in the passenger seat. A whiff of speed and she starts flapping her legs around, gripping the door and making exhaggerated gasping sounds! It's enough to make anyone behave!

That wouldn't have occured to me being a bit of a mechanical know-nothing, but now you've mention it it does look very odd! I'm also not keen on the sound, if the vids I've seen are anything to go by. Bit TOO LOUD for me!

Definitely. I think I've seen a couple of reviews from the US that were a bit negative about the sound but it would be great not to have shell out an extra grand so here's hoping!

Was it hired? I didn't finish the video, he only got fined £515 and lost his license! Not bad for him really seeing as how he went 165! Got off light Yep. It refers to the car being hired. Obviously dangerous driving is dangerous driving but for some reason it just makes him seem more of a gimp that he doesn't even own such a nice car.

Really sorry to hear that and about Pete's cat. I know how I'll feel when our cats and bunnies aren't around any more. Pets are with us for a relatively short time, but they have such a big place in our hearts don't they.

Somehow it being a hired car makes it seem even sadder! What a chump.

I would be interested to know too.

I think the problem is that some people are very judgemental and that can get other people's backs up. The only thing that has wound me up a bit is a lack of differentiation between those of use willing to admit to being normal human beings who occasionally make mistakes (and regret and learn from them), and people who just ignore the rules of the road (as appears to happen in the original video).