Keyser

Evening all, Only got a couple of hours in tonight - rest of the family want to eat "At a reasonable time" I think 11pm is reasonable but apparently I'm wrong So first and most important job tonight - my welding chair keeps sinking all the way down (no weight jokes thank you!) Thats got that covered onto the welding Lets make fun shapes Simples Now I stopped at this point as as @Ross k (thanks for the offer) mentions we are playing the what fits over what works game, How much oil can it hold?? So given the basics - V Coordinates of a vertex. T Unit tangent vector from the vertex along the edge towards the other end. N Unit vector normal to the edge in the plane of the face, and pointing from the edge into the face. B Unit vector normal to the plane of the face, and pointing into the polyhedron. Then the volume of the polyhedron, VOLUME = -1/6 sum( V.T V.N V.B ) Also, the total area of all the faces, AREA = 1/2 sum( V.T V.N ) and the total length of all the edges, LENGTH = - 1/2 sum( V.T ) That I really can't be bothered with I got these - filled em with water - 4 litres I got this - with this much left so that's about 3.75l - I estimate 5l when I can fill it all the way up and that's enough We can add in an oil cooler and I recon I can hit the magic 6l So I carried on - hole Gone More tomorrow But please note I used Lilt Zero - makes all the difference Keyser Maximum Effort

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Thanks No surprisingly not, I don't have the figures but the 350 lump is heavy for a V6 and the box is huge! I'm sure someone will have the figures or look them up but as I recall when we did @Wasso LS it was not a lot. Baffle plate is already planned - using the old one Dry sump - No too expensive, complicated and you need a tank somewhere - but if this turns into a track machine then I may add an accusump for special occasions

Oi Oi - I have this annoying thing called work that slows me down OK so a trim up on the mill Couple of spot welds we have Test fit that - more depth available but it is to close to the cross member So they need modifying - I also had to remove this much of the sump I am worried about actual capacity after I get it finished, but I will build it and see how much it holds then see if I need to extend it further forwards to hold more oil. Extensions added Another test fit Height is right cross member clearance is good Had this sheet of aluminium in the pile it's as thick as the part I'm modifying but I'll most likely double skin the bottom against bumps New sides added New base bent to shape and tacked in place. By the end of Sunday i was here - Still not sure it will hold enough oil but that's all the space I have without going wider or further forwards Hmmm. For info it would have been just as easy if not easier to simply start again with the sump but I at least got to use the drain plug and can reuse the splash tray. Hope to weld a bit more tonight, time permitting as @andybp says these little jobs do take a long while especially if you have nothing to work from, it takes longer to measure, test fit, modify and retest than to actually weld it all up So maybe more soon Keyser Maximum Effort

Yes, most engines/gearboxes have a rubber mount to reduce vibration, this is the standard one from the Monaro, it may need replacing with something harder but won't know until we drive it

Moving swiftly on to Sunday afternoon, The Sump This is the gap I was left with after getting the engine to what looked about right. This is the LS sump No chance of getting that in as is! I did however get the BMW fitment sump Which also won't fit First thing I noticed while looking for a solution and the modification of the sump was this - Yup they are warped, now I don't know if bolting this in will pull that out if not I may get it skimmed to make it flat again. After much thought I just gave up and cut the sump up WHat I did with that in a mo Keyser

Sunday then, First job get the gearbox mount sorted As I said before this engine was being fitted into a BMW but the conversion was never finished, It did come with their gearbox mount though. Not a straight bolt in job, but it is going to be strong as they have used something like 8mm plate steel - I'm not wanting to re-invent the wheel and this is already here so ...... Made some HEAVY brackets to bolt to the original points on the 350 I don't mind them being that bit over what is needed as apart from weight there is no real downside and they have a strong leverage effect on them from being forwards of the load point. Bit of welding to connect them together Ended up with this Which fits like so Gearstick alignment Well it's in the middle but I need to make it a bit longer - Add that to the list Happy with the height I went for, now all the mounts are in the engine sits here That's about identical to the 350 gear box position So that's it LS engine in a 350Z, no kit and a weekends work, scientific alignment done with - 1 x Tape measure 1x Steel rule 1x Mk 1 one eyeball 1x Best Guess Of course I have no idea if the radiator will fit back on but if not I will just move it Keyser

I sold the MX5 - The wife was giving me looks, she didn't actually say anything but I got a feeling that 5 cars and a trailer was pushing it I have better use for the money - buy bits to get the LS running I'll get Sundays update posted this morning

Ouch I mean I hope these breaks were accidental but seems you have done a fair bit of damage to that hand over time. maybe you should take up origami as a hobby

Hmmm I wonder who edited my title

The 370 has the original engine with Stage 1.5 supercharger 450 wheel HP The LS has less HP but more torque

I'm going to attempt to do as much of this conversion as possible without buying any of the conversion kits, I will still need some specialist parts made such as the propshaft, I'll probably go for the ready made clutch upgrade but will see how much I can save if I DIY that as well, the rest we will just make up as we go So if anyone spots and obvious mistakes or has any constructive criticism to offer please don't be shy post it up Banter is obligatory on this thread so if you aren't up to it don't follow I had to start somewhere so I put the engine on the hoist and tried it - Not even close Needs to be further back and lower, but with the sump on it can't do either which was to be expected as all the kits come with a new sump and modified oil pickup. I removed the sump put the gearbox on and tried again. I got everything as close to needed as possible, bear in mind there has to be a few compromises, then started on the engine mounts. Original 350z Mount - used because A. I have them and B. I can always use the upgraded version later if needed and it should be a 1 for 1 swap. I also got this with the engine - They came with the engine which was going to be put into a BMW, I cleaned it up as I want the plate that fits on the engine (this could easily be made but why waste what I have) For the other side I had similar but as the distance is more I kept some of the metalwork. clean up the 350 engine mount top plates Make a template weld the up - Drivers side Passenger Side The all important fitted Happy with that, I now have to make a gearbox mount to replace the trolley jack More Soon. Keyser Maximum Effort

OK as this was a strip and decide thread I have now started the build thread proper (with a better title) here - Keyser

Well I have the car and the engine so might as well put them together and see what happens The Zed - 2004 Azure 350z, 123K miles and a now removed blown engine. Engine - LS2 V8 6l (400HP) removed from a 2006 24K miles Monaro (already removed when I acquired it) Gear Box - T56 from the same Monaro Let the games begin Original thread with engine strip and damage here - Keyser

@andybp Twice!!! Ouch!!!! So sense does not come with age then!! Can I call you pops now I know you are that much older than me @evilscorp - Noted - I'll start a proper build thread for the conversion in the correct place as well

@andybp I thought I was older actually - when I was 19 centurion was a rank not a tank I'm the big 50 this year Is that a rover V8 you are adapting for the Capri ???

@andybp I'm just impressed they had power tools when you were 19

So it's a rainy Saturday morning here at the Zed shed II, I have this - and this Time to make a coffee and go ponder if these two would play nicely together without the need to buy a conversion kit, I will update you on my findings later Keyser

Happy Birthday buddy have a great weekend.

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Well it's guess work really, the engine had a top end rebuild about 7,000 miles ago (I have the receipts) Valves changed, oil gallery done and new timing chain. So my guess is you take a 118,000 mile engine and refresh the top end, this results in better performance BUT the bottom end was not done, It probably could have used it especially as doing the top would most likely increase power, Now drive it like you stole it and that extra power found a weak point, worn piston most likely was the first thing to fail - as soon as that broke and started bouncing round the engine the rest just beat itself to death. So the hole in the sump was a result of the engine fail and the reason the oil ran after the engine seized, no sign it was low on oil before that, But I have no service history or anything to say it was well looked after for the first 100K.

Just waiting for your sponsorship cheque to arrive and I'll start ordering the parts for the conversion

This is not looking good .............. so here is the damage - Rods What is left of 2 pistons and the rings removed debris from engine Left cylinder head right cylinder head So the plan is cut the valves down on cylinders 3 and 4, weld them into the head remove the rods and put it back together I will have a V4 350z Or maybe just drop the lot down the scrap yard The good news is when the top end was rebuilt 6000 miles ago they put new cam covers on and they are still good - something I can sell YAYY!!! Next stage soon(ish) Keyser

But I had to know what had happened to the engine .................. found the hole the oil came out of sump came off next more soon ........