coldel

Clearly the law is the law, but common bloody sense is shouting out at me that if someone fires a gun through a door multiple times believing someone else is on the otherside, what other intention is there other than to kill? Even a bullet shot into someones foot can kill them, the second you point a gun and fire at someone whether there is a door in the way or not that is intent to kill surely.

Who says possible job losses?! Go do your homework and stop accepting the Torygraph twist on all reporting! http://www.businessf...land-votes-yes/ As neil has already said - it is simply a position that they will want to move their licence so that they're covered by LOLR This is project Fear at its height - which is excatly hat we expected Get off your high horse. I read a number of sites immediately after the announcement, some said jobs losses some didn't so I said 'possible' - this sort of comment is the type of stereotyping you get from some north of the border thats unnecessary and baseless after having contributed very objectively so far gathering as much information from sources like the ONS unlike many who link to newspaper reports which will always be biased, for both camps. Neil responded, I read it and thought yes he's probably right so left it at that. Project Fear, really, good grief. Maybe the opposition should start calling AS effort Project Fanciful. Over and out - good luck with the vote which ever way it goes.

RBS announced they would be moving its headquarters south in the event of a Yes vote...possibly some jobs shifts, but more of a administration reason (financial sectors need to be within the UK which is a stronger proposition than Scotland I would guess) - after the BP comment these sorts of things might start to sway it back to No. Its one thing to have ex/company directors of smaller businesses supporting Yes or No, another to have large business institutions actually go on record as reducing investment in Scotland in the event of a Yes vote.

Apparently it comes down to the 'Reasonable Man' ruling which tries to predict what a reasonable man would have done, if Pistorius did do as this mythical reasonable man would do then its fine. Apparently according to the judge he could not have possibly realised that by shooting through the door that the person on the otherside would have died...I just dont get that

Because the Scottish Yes voters know where you live ...

I am confused by one issue though, apparently he cannot be done for murder because he 'could not have had the capability that shooting through the door would cause the death of the person on the otherside' - what on earth would you have expected shooting at someone in a room through a door? Surely he must have known that any impact would have likely killed them?

Good poll - I remember reading an article in the US that asking the question 'who do you think will win' is more likely to be more accurate in US local elections than asking people who they would vote for and tallying it up.

Yeah cant believe it, her next line on the papers is likely to be "Guilty of Culpable Homicide" but she stopped it there - like a soap opera!

Interesting that the view from north of the border is generally that things aren't great, the scrapheap car example, poverty mentioned, that the system is broken. Poverty in Scotland is one of the lowest in the UK, the UK is one of the leading economies exiting the recession, the UK has completely disproportionate power of veto and rebate in the EU compared to our view on our inclusion. Unfortunately a lot of this is not understood and people always think the grass is going to be greener on the other side. Yes independence is the vote here of course, but a lot of the debate from Yes relies on people believing that they will suddenly be economically prosperous overnight as well as being independent. Scotland might well be, but as so well defined by Larfan there is no plan in place and there is not enough time between now and 2016 to put a plan in place, there is not even a baseline in place - if anything the planning and promises made by the Yes campaign to this point has been nigh on negligent. If boot were on the other foot and I understood that the Yes vote is about being independent AND the consequences that brings I just couldnt bring myself to tick that box.

Looks like he is not guilty of pre-meditated murder, an acquittal has also been ruled out, so he is going to be guilty of something, depends on what and how long he gets ...anyone else following it at the moment?

Have the Yes campaign put a cost against the change? I would imagine in admin and personnel alone it will run into tens maybe even hundreds of millions?

I can understand them not having an answer to EVERYTHING that would be tough - but to at least be a bit more prepared. It feels like there are some things that have been badly ignored whilst we all ranted on about who owns the pound...

I really dont get why all the English members are getting so wound up and making it personal? I wouldn't say ALL are getting personal (then follow it up with a statement saying we are stereotyping the Scots!) - personally, I do find it somewhat personal as not many Scots seem to think that this will impact me. If the UK breaks up then by default it loses 8% of its economy overnight, that has completely unknown repercussions for England within the UK and who knows what will happen, it certainly won't be 'as you were chaps' - its going to affect the rest of the UK, so not sure why their view isn't valid and in some cases people get a little riled like we have seen with some Scottish posts on the thread also. I don't think I remember seeing over 26 pages of this any Englishman saying that you shouldn't get your say, I think most of the comments are along the lines of daft/baseless claims and promises by Yes campaign which in effect allows them to make up stuff at will to win support whilst the Nos have to stick to the known truths and that moving politicians north of the border isn't going to suddenly create a building full of caring and understanding people who have Scotlands interests as a whole at heart.

Phew, managed to recover my account after some imposter hijacked it for the last few weeks, so where did we get to on this debate about those overweight deep fried mars bar eaters wanting to run stuff themselves then - all they are good for is working on oil rigs aint they

Can someone confirm for me (in all seriousness), that the referendum is simply for an independent Scotland, it doesn't mean that AS will actually be in power - surely there will need to be a general election following any Yes vote?

Well said. Glad I'm of the younger generation Instead of the wiser and learned older generation

There is an endless amount of admin that will come into play - it will take years for the wheels to even start turning correctly.

Interestingly after all the various B List company directors that have been wheeled out in support of either side, the biggie today is Bob Dudley who both AS and DC have endorsed as one of the experts on North Sea oil, and he has gone No.

Some interesting assumptions there DB, London is an amazing place, from afar maybe it is but I would challenge anyone to go live in some parts and come back saying how amazing it is. I am lucky enough to live in Richmond but I drive ten minutes away through some parts of Hounslow and I pray my car doesn't break down. As for geography and investment, it has been shown that public spending for the south east is on part per head as the rest of the country - yes there are no high speed cross rail projects going on in Yorkshire but then again you don't have 8 million people trying to get across 20 miles of space each day. The EU argument is irrelevant, your example is about the UK voting in a body with no experience managing us, which is just not the same as voting for a body that has spent the last few hundred years managing you.

Totally agree that Thatcherism destroyed northern industry. The rest of the big paragraph above though can, and will likely occur under a Scottish government if you go independent - in fact, all the above happens in the majority of other developed countries globally, constantly labeling it a 'Westminster' problem is factually correct but not unique to the UK, I think its somewhat foolish to think none of the above will occur post independence. Yes you can then vote out the people responsible from a Scottish perspective but then you are simply back where you are now taking a popularity vote every five years for people you generally do not trust, Scottish or otherwise. As you said, you are voting for independence nothing more, not for some guarantee of a flourishing economy which is constantly promised by AS which is somewhat baseless in its facts and without certainty.

Because 'wearables' are a massive growing area - the obvious applications are there at the moment but its all about the future and having the tech development in the pipeline to take advantage. I still remember the launch of the iPad and the bad reception it got - the thing about the best tech launches is that at the time they are often viewed as unnecessary but there will be some clever people at Apple with versions 2, 3 and 4 already on the table and plans in place on how they will make money from them. What we see at the moment is just the dumbed down mass prodcution version.

One of the problems that BT have. Yes sounds positive, No sounds negative. Pete It seemed to be just a function of the debate? That the Yes campaign 6 months ago were promising some outlandish things which the No campaign had to challenge and it hasn't reverted back since. The problem with the No campaign offering the sorts of things the Yes campaign were offering is that it was a bit nonsense and having been part of the UK for so long would know its not realistic - however a colourful wonderful painted world of independence does make it easier to promise without worrying about delivering. The No campaign should have been more clear over the last 6 months about what additional benefits would be on the table in terms of powers but in terms of what this means to your average punter who has the Yes campaign saying they will be X thousand of pounds better off is probably minimal.

I had a D1Spec one, interesting sensation - throttle response increases, most settings were unusable day to day driving.

My Glaswegian neighbour lives down here in London (as he was commuting down here for meetings 4 times a week) but the company he heads up is based in Glasgow and employs 1000 people and contributes significantly to Scottish tax revenues, he doesn't get a vote...

Sorry to see this on FB mate, shocked! Mind you classic photo. RB26DET and you are sorted