coldel

I think there is quite a difference between doping of individuals (ie Tyson Gay) vs state sponsored doping which is what Russia is accused of. Every country has a cheater somewhere on their books but you would like to think that the state would be looking to stamp it out, not encourage it and cover it up which is what Russia is accused of.

But the report was in response to the German documentary covering Russian widespread corruption in Athletics. Of course there are other countries, this is likely to come out in the follow up report which spreads the net wider.

Or they could spend their time on something actually important and meaningful?

It is. Such a shame that people give up on a sport due to cheating.

ha thought I read somewhere she got beaten by a Russian, must have been another competition!

It wouldnt kill it, but it would set it back, which is a shame for those innocent parties concerned but it should serve as the kick up the backside for the system for systematically cheating every other athlete globally out of deserved success. JEH should have an olympic gold from her home olympics in 2012, but she hasn't, something you strive for all your life taken because of a corrupt system. I think we need to take a view from the victims of this who are the global athletic community.

I guess I am tainted in my opinion by the fact that my family are made up of car mechanics, all working independently, my dad used to (and still has to on occasions) work with dealerships when handling customers cars and the stuff they get up to when the customer isn't there is shocking, and its not isolated incidents either.

Well thats the catch, you are punishing innocent athletes for the behaviour of a number of individuals. Then again English clubs were banned from Europe in football because of a minority not the majority. I think it needs a ban of no length of time until Russia can under strenuous independent testing prove that they have done something about the corruption, not just stoically sat there and stuck two fingers up at the world again. In a rare instance, they do not hold all the cards on this one.

In general though Indy's I think though have a whole different attitude and mentality compared to dealerships - would I recommend a dealership to someone where you have no idea who is working on your car vs an Indy where you know the background of the person?

I would also be more likely to trust an indy - they have a reputation to uphold within what are often tight knit communities of owners. A couple of bad jobs and that's half their potential business down the pan. Dealers on the whole don't care about customer retention, or customer service, they just take it as it comes whoever it may be coming through the door. There have been too many stories of workers in the likes of Halfords and dealerships who go out hooning it around in customers cars. In terms of your question Dan, I have to disagree, would I take my car into a dealership to most likely have an inexperienced mechanic work on it who has possibly never even opened the bonnet of my model of car before vs an independent who puts customer service first and uses highly qualified people who work on that model of car regularly, I wouldn't no.

I guess for me of all sports Athletics should be the most pure. Its the basics of human ability, being able to run long and short distances in the shortest time, throwing stuff, jumping stuff its all the basics of the human body's capability. A single person running 100m faster than anyone else on Earth, that's incredible. Then to have 'state sponsored' cheating, how can you even sit around a table with leaders of a country who actively encourage wide spread corruption? Yes Carl Lewis etc were cheating but I suspect it wasn't signed off by the government.

Big brake kit? Monster sound system?

Bloody northerners and your pittance rent levels!

Absolutely, this report is specifically in response to the German report. But, its pathetic that in the face of such compelling evidence Russia just say 'none of its true' but there is stage two to come on this yet and I don't car even if the UK are implicated that every last cheat is rooted out. FIFA has been a bad egg for years but no one was big enough to take it on, the scary end game is that every sport globally is heavily tainted by drug taking and that in most cases its paid up for and covered up...

...and I have been in the pub since 2pm on my day off

Alright chaps! Maybe I am not up to speed on minimum wage levels but my point still stands!

5 gold medals at the 2012 olympics from athletes that should not have been there...can only imagine what the other two who should have been one step up and the fourth who never made the podium are thinking right now. We all know Russia bribe and cheat, unfortunately its a way of life at the top of Russian politics and business, but so far no organisation has been able to throw it in their face and action upon it, hopefully the IAAF can now.

...Russia and the IAAF, of course Russia just say they don't agree and its politically motivated but I think this time they won't be able to scare people off - the report is astonishing, damning. Who know's how far this goes, certainly you would think this will overlap with FIFA and the world cup awards.

Sat in the car and did it, as said in situ! Just had the trusty hair dryer and a credit card type thing and made sure I had plenty vinyl to overlap around the edges. From what I remember removing the parts is a real pain so just went for it, took about 20 minutes.

As Colin said, the keys get tossed to some 18 year old on £16 per hour to do half a days servicing on a car and then charge the owner £300 - there are clever people at dealerships but they aren't the guys doing the servicing which is the absolute basics of working on a car. I would say as well in terms of the Kaiser example, the guy recruited knows they are going to be working on dozens of 350z's day in day out, he will know his stuff, unlike your spotty teenager who works on a convey belt of Micras then this low slung V6 rolls in that he has never worked on before...

Heat, patience, and more patience I find works well when using vinyl. When you get it right, it really is quite rewarding. I did the silver plastics on the steering wheel (in situ) which came out fine, worth a go if you want to see the results every time you get in the car, only photo I have is this...

If they have indeed invented a stamp for a book, is that illegal?

Found it on auto trader, Oliphant and Rees they are called. I wonder what they would say if you mailed them with something like 'can I see evidence of the full service history' and when they send it, reply with 'well that wasn't there when my mate sold it to you the other day!'

That is naughty, and poor, what do you think they did just invent some stamps and stamp it?

Good work fella, another Five for the owned car history list