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I remember reading stuff about this when I was really into photography, the landowner has the right to deny you take photos but the law is grey on something like this because often the mechanics are not the landowners and cannot impose the same right. They can say they will not work on your car, as is their right, but they cannot invoke a rule to stop you unless the landowner of the property they rent imposes it on their behalf. Im not a lawyer so do not expect this to be 100% true! If they do demand you have it disconnected then you are well within your rights to demand it is reconnected when it leaves the private property and onto public property again I would say because if they are involved in an accident and the camera is not running I would be pretty annoyed regardless who was to blame.

I took a walkthrough Vid a couple of years back - gives you an idea of the scope of cars on view

Yeah get that but that is not the point we are looking at, the original point was made by mechanics that they disconnect cameras so that "we don't allow cameras because of security of the workshops being victims of burglary and cameras recording etc' when in many cases you can stand outside the workshop and look in as they have open fronted workshops, or have to walk through parts of them to get to the reception area, or if you ask you can be accompanied in etc. I was sat on the train today which stopped at Mortlake station I looked out the window at Mortlake motors and saw four cars in the workshop and the whole interior of it from sat on the train - the idea that they would for instance disconnect your camera for this reason is as I say, just nonsense.

When I had alignment done on my car I walked in, the MOT centre I use I walk in and stand with the car as it goes over the ramp - its pretty common practice. Most garages I have seen and used over the years have the shutters on the front of the building and you can just look inside even whilst standing outside. The excuse to turn the cam off for that reason is as I say is complete nonsense. Its basically to stop people capturing any balls up that they can cover up and get away with simple as - there is no security risk or the like. I can though believe that someone would simply not want their days work recorded and put on the net - if they were up front about that instead of making up excuses which bear no weight people might be more inclined to trust them.

I did read about them in Auto Express or something like that a few months back - I cannot locate the article but google turns up pages like this http://heavy.com/tech/2016/09/top-best-gps-tracking-devices-for-cars-vehicle-monitoring-obdii-module/

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There are some neat trackers around at the moment, £100 and last for about 3 months before needing charging that communicate with an app on your phone. Mostly for use if the car got stolen but equally for knowing if the car is being ragged senseless around roads.

Good points but largely not convincing in my eyes. Mostly people want the dashcams on when the car is on and in motion not when its stationary and switched off. Yes the cars might be on and running briefly inside a workshop but for work like services most of the time its off - so no big brother going on there really. As for scoping out garages, thats just rubbish. If someone wants to rob a garage you walk in and enquire about some work and walk out again, that will give you much more of a view of the content of the place than a car with 110 degrees of view dashcam which probably isnt picking up brand names and labels on tools etc.

The OP said the car is now making a strange noise though? I think if a garage is going to start disconnecting equipment unrelated to the work being carried out then they should be asking permission.

They should not be touching the dashcam - thats not their property, it had nothing to do with the repair and it only adds to distrust hence your post. Mechanics in garages get up to plenty of high jinks, most of it harmless enough, maybe they thought it was running all the time and disconnected it so nothing was captured during the time it was being worked on? Either way, just go somewhere else next time thats the beauty of choice.

Was exiting the car park next to you - silver 350z.

I have four apertures on my bonnet! Some are for air in (belt cooling) some for out. As they are designed for rallying in mind they must work. Have to say whilst sat in traffic I can see a wall of heat rippling in front of me as it exits the vent in the middle! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Don't go near anything coming out of TVRGlen, well known in VX community for producing shiny cars with umpteen hidden problems.

Contrary to above, I think the advert is pretty poor and doesn't stand out at all. Advertising slogans in car adverts in my opinion are not good i.e. "this is the top one you can get" makes it sound like a desperate car salesman. In terms of value for money etc that's up to the buyer to decide, you shouldn't really be telling them what to think. Stick to the facts, create bulleted lists of detail so its easier to digest. Mention service history? Mention MoT? The ad needs much more detail and needs to appeal to the person likely to buy this, they are more likely to be a car enthusiast and interested in the detail. If I were spending two grand on a Fiat this ad might work for me for example... Personally I have found Autotrader a complete waste of time for this sort of car, ebay has worked so much better for me, much higher readership I suspect on ebay than Autotrader plus you can be so much more flexible with your advert - I like to include a video walkaround for people to view for instance you can include this in your advert description. All above is constructive feedback, don't take it personally.

RTBiscuit I remember felt that the S2000 was better than every way than the 350z and loved it - so expect a glowing reference!

As far as I know from reading on Detailing World suds don't make any difference to quality of clean so don't get hung up on it. As long as it lubricates, cleans, and works its magic you should be fine. I use Bathe+ and its just stunning, when you rinse it the water runs off like you wouldn't believe. I tried Envy's stuff but wasn't as good.

Bilt Hamber Auto Wheel head and shoulders above everything else, you should test that.

I just logged in again to take screen grab of mine, but there was no ads at all Are you using any ad blockers? Cant have ad blockers on my laptop at work so lumbered with it. At home have an ad blocker but sites are cottoning on to this and restricting content if you block ads (as the ads fund the site) so it wont be long before most free sites will ask to disable your ad-blocker. I would rather start out on and use one that at least (for now) has a lower ad environment than PB. I think most of us agreed that PB is slower and has more ads on the previous thread about PB dying - but that the app wasn't so good.

On another thread chatting with Dan I took a screen grab of my photo bucket which showed no less than 3 adverts on just the library page in one go - not including the splash adverts I get when I log in. PB is definitely slower and more advert dominant.

Photobucket as a desktop based platform is utter tosh - over run with advertising and has become so slow its farcical. Imgur on desktop is really clean, fast and relatively ad free. I rarely use apps to upload photos etc mostly do all my photo work on desktop so never really aware of how good or bad an app version is.

I just clicked the little man shaped icon in the bottom right and all my photos appear? But yes I got all the images come up...

What mods were you running on the GT4?

Every person is unique, I think that's what frustrates most people and why sometimes things do not make sense but it only takes a single post code letter or a model type on your car to throw things out. You cannot produce a costing model which takes absolutely everything into account, on the whole the models probably work fine in 80% of occasions and the rest you get strange things happening (including super good cheap deals as well as stupid expensive ones). Most of the time these insurers are just the brokers, they are not setting the prices, they are getting the cheapest from the suppliers they have available to them. We all forget that these are companies that are trying to turn a profit, if you ran the business and you found that 50% of customers took the first price offered and 50% took a discounted rate when they bartered with you, would you just offer the discounted rate off the bat to everyone? Just to say, I am not an insurance agent, I just wanted to give an alternative perspective and 'walk their shoes' version to consider before we move into 5 pages of just mob based insurance bashing

Thanks for the kiss

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