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Still ugly, dated and not a patch on many contemporaries styling efforts. Impressive numbers though.

What would you use it on though....or dare I ask....

I guess they are trying something a bit different with the celebs. Like a normal chat show you queue up celebs on the sofa and they chime in, poor old James didn't seem willing to do that. And to be fair, in reality wasn't sat there that long really. How bloody lethal was that Karcher pressure washer though!

Yes that bit was great - you could see it coming but BANG hell of a whack. Agree the script reading needs some work but that comes with time - they all seem on the same wavelength without CE going off on loony toons every 2 minutes.

Pretty good episode, that Ferrari though, something else that car. Just wow.

There is an X parked in the street along from me (a P90D) and have to say it does look a big lump

I dont think that is true, was over 25 degrees in Cork when I went, tshirt and shorts, was in May I think.

TGM did the repair to my Celica bonnet (some builders dropped tiles on it!) which is all aluminium and they found it challenging, they are top top body work guys too. Hats off for giving it a go but its not easy by all accounts.

I went to Ireland for my stag do - we spent a few nights in Cork. Stunning place, people are just as you might expect super friendly and a great laugh. Even the taxi ride to the coast was a visual experience! Have kissed the Blarney stone already

I think with reference to people and their status it will all be fine on both sides. The sort of confrontational politics we see by the likes of Farage doesn't help things at all, it only makes their opposite number act in a similar manner, but I am pretty hopeful that sensible people outside the likes of Farage et al. will just realise that the cost and upheaval to both economies is just too ridiculous to fathom if we all decided to uproot everyone.

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Hmmm have to say I am with Dan on this, looks a bit Hyundai if you ask me. Even companies like Jag who make aggressive fearsome cars still conform to the dull uninspired look that all EV seem to have to be styled as.

There's more than economic argument at stake - if the EU allow us a great deal, then we could well see Italy, France and a few others seriously considering go for it too especially if the right wingers get support they need. So the EU is fighting for its survival - however we shouldn't think that plays into our hands. I think it will harm both sides, we will probably lose out economically the EU will lose out politically. But who knows until we see what each side is prioritising.

I guess going back to the question, should we have them, well its been on the table for a long time, in fact back at the start of the 1900s I think it was first questioned. It seems though that many people question it, none come up with a viable alternative. Voting in the members seems like it makes sense, but as Pete says it doesn't in many cases create a credible challenge to power in the Commons if its the same party with majority. Alternatively if its an opposing party you end up with nothing going through. You could argue using PR but then that throws a whole new issue up as to where the power really lies, a house with a PR elected membership could be due more power than those in the Commons i.e. 35% of the vote and winning an election. I think in essence the idea is a good one, that you have a sense check of important stuff the party in power in the Commons put together - how we get to that membership is the problem.

I would suggest (and I am only guessing) is that the process is that the UK triggers the article and submits its terms for divorce which the EU has to respond to. So like it or not we have to reveal our hand first. As for Germany itself, we are not negotiating with Germany, its with the EU, the guy heading that up has to get a joint confirmation of all EU parties before committing to something we cannot agree different terms with different countries unilaterally?

So I guess as I started the previous 93 page debate... Morally I think yes. Democratically I say yes. Lords are giving a view of all people living here, not just those born here. In terms of democracy, the only thing that it counts for in this instance is that at some point, the UK exits the EU. No one voted for the terms of the exit, so the argument around it being undemocratic is not really applicable. All that said, as above, the media report it is giving away a bargaining chip. Which is probably true, is that one chip out of a thousand though, I don't see May jumping up and down about it, how important was it? On the other hand, it would become a powerful 'political' chip for the UK if the EU decided to send UK nationals home, we would be seen pretty much across the board as the good guys and more pro-European than the actual EU, if the EU did send them back that sort of thing would only strengthen far right wing support across Europe and ultimately lessen the control of those pro-EU in every country. Pure speculation, haven't read that anywhere, but could be the case? As for time, this is going to be a process taking years, potentially decades, a few weeks back and forth now is not really an issue, again its a political soundtrack for Brexiters but its not really going to have an impact in the grand scheme of things. I think the overall problem is that the public misunderstand what they voted for, they voted to exit the EU, not the terms. The terms are there for all parties to ratify, the public will get what they voted for in an exit but have no say in how its done.

Throttle Controller on a Lambo? #isitreallyrequired Oh and have seen Lambos on fire on YT, but because the flames out the exhaust set light to the bodywork!

Amazing news. Every time I see you update this thread I open it and brace myself, just wonderful news.

So many potential jokes with this, I don't know where to start

Same with Oslo. Companies have set up a huge infrastructure of charging points (something like 600+ in Amsterdam alone) so makes it a viable option for taxis.

First image that came up on Google search - not the worst looking thing in the world, I have certainly seen uglier 350z's!

They can be modified to look quite stunning though - seen some very desirable looking cars on here and online.

I agree, we get a slightly blinkered view of what the 350z ownership experience looks like as we tend to mostly go the mod route - and its very likely we only represent a small % of Zed owners in the UK. I would imagine getting an unfettered one should be reasonably straight forward - looking on AT, ebay and PH 95% of them have no mods. Supras, Skylines and the like on the other hand...

I think we get a somewhat biased view of 350z's because the majority on here modify the cars - there are many more owners not on forums who just own the cars and do nothing to them. I see 5 unmodified standard Zeds out on the roads for every modified one.

Shame Sega Rally didn't have the same effect on GT-Fours I live in hope though