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Just for fun I put in my Celica, I got offered £50

Cars are definitely getting bigger nowadays, came back to mine in the car park and honestly looked like mine was some toy car next to a tank

....and the lowly GT-Four of course 😉 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

...and those not in the 'most' group? Just seems daft to have a 1 mph difference when every single driver in the country will at some point in their car slightly push over 30mph and hit 31mph they are then means tested for a fine for being a speeder when they are anything but...

I remember when Abramovich took over Chelsea he was on a million pounds a day salary, £500k, pah, chicken feed! As Stew said this is not tackling speeding, speed cameras do not tackle speeding (many people just speed between them). Speed cameras cover I am guessing, 0.0000001% of the road network, they are never going to address the speeding issue. Its money grabbing and it will not deter the super rich, once someone is earning over £100k they are probably very well off in terms of disposable income. There is nothing there to convince me this will have any real world effect on speeding - unless someone can show me actual figures that clearly shows significant numbers of rich people are speeding vs poorer people. As an aside, you could argue someone living in Manchester on £30k a year is likely to have more disposable income and ability to pay than someone living in London on £40k a year - just a point. As an additional aside. Not sure if anyone read the actual document in the article, which states you can get fined for doing 31mph in a 30mph zone? Given inaccuracy of both speedos and cameras, how they got to that conclusion.

...which makes me feel that earnings based fines will make no difference. If someone can 'afford' the fine then they will still speed, a billionaire as you say can always afford a £5000 fine. The only deterrent I can see if removal of driving privileges early on, a sort of yellow card if you like. Which makes this policy so ridiculous, its a nod to 'common man' out there that 'hey we are looking out for you guys' from the government but not actually doing anything practical to stop speeding. They probably spent months in meetings coming up with it instead of thinking of something that affects the demographic that cause most speeding incidents in the right way.

For me a better implementation is to prevent repeat offenders across the board. The fine should go up for repeated offenders. £65 is never going to bankrupt anyone, even on £15k a year. But second offence put it up to £165 and so on. Remove licence earlier than 4, 3 pointers? Maybe take it down to 9? Put in shorter ban for 6 points of say a month? I guess I get a bit fed up of seeing headline stuff like this to try and politically make a government more popular (hit the bankers in the pocket damn them type headlines) and am more interested in sorting out the deaths caused by speeding. PS, I am not a high earning banker and have never got a speeding ticket!

From what I read briefly skipping through though it was going to be much more than £500. As above (I did edit) unless I can see evidence this kind of fine system will work in the UK why implement it and ignore the real problem. In the UK income tax and corporation tax funds the road infrastructure maintenance, not VED. VED goes towards road 'projects' but there is no way a couple of hundred quid a year on each car can fund the whole thing - as higher earners pay more tax, its fair to say they contribute more to the upkeep.

If its about affordability, then thats something else. Because someone is on say £50k a year it doesn't mean they can suddenly rustle up and pay a £5k fine at the drop of a hat. People on high salaries already fund the roads more than those on lower salaries. I think when it comes to crime, its a fixed rate and then a licence removal - I cannot see why authorities have to wait for four convictions before even looking at a licence removal. I think you are including the uber rich who have tonnes of disposable income, sure footballers and the like, thats a whole different ball game. If the government can show some data that shows higher earners are flouting speeding laws much more than lower earners then sure I can go with the argument, my guess is that they don't have that. It wont stop lower earners speeding, it might stop higher earners speed but if lower earners are say 80% of the problem then the government are going to fail in reducing speed related incidents with this measure.

Sat on driveways waiting for the weekend? I see a fair few on weekends, during the week I am tucked away in my office in central London, not so many driving up and down the Strand

Next thing you know if you commit murder and are on a low salary its only 2 years but 20 if you are a CEO Call me Mr Cynical but seems like a bit of a money making exercise out of motorists...cannot believe the government would do that

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I think you are right to a degree, when fuel is £2+ a litre, government taxing clean air to death and everyone is moving to efficiency at home there will be a niche who want something like this. How much a mass produced GT car will actually be worth though...who knows. There are still thousands on the road now, I cannot imagine that in 5 years you will be looking at a rare sight on the road a fair few will still be running. 20 years from now, then I would agree could be worth a fair bit more, excluding inflation, £20k for a DE anyone?

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Interesting reading, can't say I agree with it though.

I think unless you are buying a proper classic, like a 240z, then you are never going to make money on these cars in general (occasionally you might) - sounds like OP made a not so good call on purchase price/condition but really I would say forget about it and enjoy the car. I bought mine private and within 5 months had to spend nigh on £800 on flywheel and clutch kit.

From reading the previous treadwear threads you had to remove the raised rubber parts of letters on the tyre before applying the letters? Fox might have a good point, I wonder if you made a stencil and overlaid it on the tyre could you just spray plastidip onto it direct?

I have driven a hire car in Naples for a day...nuff said

I would have to agree - I have really gotten past the whole thing of shouting and getting angry at other drivers. Many times its just a simple mistake which any of us could make - there are the occasional muppet but I just let them get on their way, I wont A. let them ruin my day by getting me wound up and B. join them in their muppetdom by chasing them down the road also driving like a muppet I think most of us when we make a mistake on the road know it, we don't need 20 seconds on the horn, verbal abuse, finger waving, lights flashing etc to point out a mistake we know we have made.

I think Lloyds charge out at 1.5% on withdrawals from memory. I would never go abroad carrying fifteen hundred quid I dont think I have ever had more than £50 cash in my pocket in any currency on any trip I have been on for the last 5 years.

Yeah let me know how you get on, I have to travel a fair bit and my experience has always been better rates from ATM in situ.

General consensus is that prices already bottomed out for early Zeds, hard to give a view on your question without knowing what one you have and what you paid for it. If you paid top dollar from a dealer and are now looking at more reasonable priced private ads for instance...

Never heard of currency club? I have always just drawn out cash from ATMs when I arrive?

I could...with at least half of them in walls/ditches within the first year