Adrian@TORQEN

I'm going to blatantly steal some more opinions from other forums and post it here for debate "Surprised how many of the "out" arguments are actually arguments against the effects of globalisation and our national government's policies. Ironically we will be more at the mercy of these forces if we leave. As for going with your gut, that's not a great way to decide anything but what to eat for dinner. Question very carefully where the stories that shape your objections to the eu have come from and how wide and unbiased viewpoint that represents. Do the people propagating those ideas share you best interests in advocating a brexit? It would suit our enemies (economic and ideological) nicely to divide the eu along nationalistic lines. That may even be a prime goal. Clearly the Syria/Iraq refugee flow is a useful lever. It's like we are a slightly autistic nation, confused and troubled by the world around us, lashing out blindly at our own family." "Our UN membership should't be affected by Brexit and neither should information sharing. Again, ironically the UN weren't behind the Iraq invasion and the legitimacy of that, in fact, to be blunt that war was in every respect illegal and imho Bush and Blair should both stand trial for that. Everytime something like this happens there are consequences. Look at the escalation in Syria once larger powers get involved and the resulting fall out. So we go all out pre-emptively striking any 'lunatic' by our 'standards', who pose a threat! Who are the lunatics with weapons then? Maybe we need to be and feel weaker, a bit more humility would be welcome after years of tiny dog (island) syndrome trying to bark and force our way on others. I agree that national policies are a huge problem, but with EU standing behind us, perhaps we think we have more international standing and 'might' than we deserve. Wars fuelled ultimately on control of oil reserves, if we spent the money we did on military campaigns on research and development, alternative energies and the like we'd be in a far better state than we're in now. The last 2 decades of war have achieved nothing, we've lost respect and created a whole new generations of enemies which we can thank Blair for. I'm not blaming the EU for this of course, but we need to concentrate and take a long hard look at ourselves and how representative of our people we have been. There is a lot of blame that gets unecessarily heaped on the EU, but all the time it is there its a convenient scapegoat for not getting our affairs in order." "I voted and will be voting to stay in, without any doubt we are better in the EU. We already have a special position within the EU anyway and that won't change. The migrant discussion herein is moot anyway, doesn't negatively affect the UK in the slightest, unless you believe the @*!# printed by Mail or other rags lol."

Another interesting article, when you think about such an important law debated by UK MPs, thinking that what we do here is better than EU wide legislation: "The Government risks undermining civil liberties by trying to push through its ‘snoopers’ charter’ with little scrutiny from MPs, a pressure group has warned. Big Brother Watch has voiced concerns that MPs will tomorrow spend just an afternoon debating a 245-page Investigatory Powers Bill, which will hand the authorities vast surveillance powers. As well as the Bill itself, MPs have had to wrestle with a further 700 pages of supplementary documents that explain the legislation in detail - much of it complex legalese that many will struggle to understand it. Renate Samson, chief executive of the civil liberties group, told The Huffington Post UK the expectation the Bill will be on the statute books by the end of the year is “too fastâ€." http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/snoopers-charter-is-900-pages-long_uk_56e6e5dce4b05c52666ef427

Very well said.

"The British mass media market is dominated by Eurosceptic press titles. This has led to a scale and intensity of negative coverage about the EU that informed commentators have judged to be ‘unique’ in Europe as a whole. The central proposition advanced below is that this development – which began in the later 1980s and accelerated through the 1990s and beyond – has strongly influenced the ways in which UK politicians think about what is achievable in their European policies, as well as what is desirable in the first place. A ‘climate of fear’ from press backlashes has meant that UK governments have been increasingly unwilling to devise, implement and publicise pro-European initiatives. In this context, David Cameron’s referendum gamble can in part be seen as a tactical response to the catalytic part the UK press has played in fomenting mass Euroscepticism in UK politics and public debate. [...] Currently only one national press title, debate the Daily Express, is firmly committed to UK withdrawal from the EU. It remains to be seen on which side of the debate its rivals will come down before the referendum. However, what can be ascertained at this stage is that a vote to remain inside the EU would go against a lot of what the opinion-forming segments of the UK press has been overtly or covertly pushing for some time. This should make journalists and owners wonder whether they really have been giving the UK public the stories about the EU it wants to hear. Dr Oliver Daddow is Senior Lecturer in Politics and International Relations at Nottingham Trent University. " http://ukandeu.ac.uk/the-uk-media-euroscepticism-and-the-uk-referendum-on-eu-membership/

"How might overall migration change? Some EU citizens would still qualify to migrate to the UK if they faced the same immigration rules as non-EU citizens, but doing so would be much harder because of the skill and earnings requirements for both work-related and family migration. These changes could have some second-order effects that are essentially impossible to quantify in advance. For example, many UK employers have become accustomed to the flexible supply of EU workers in low-wage jobs, and the removal of this migration route could increase the pressure for illegal migration and employment. It is also possible that immigration of EU citizens could increase in the short run in anticipation of EU exit, as people seize the opportunity to move before the rules change. Nonetheless, it is difficult to argue that overall migration in the medium term would not be lower if significant new policy barriers were introduced. Would the reductions Brexit might bring be enough to enable the government to hit the “tens of thousands†net migration target? Not necessarily –the most recent data showed net migration of non-EU citizens at 196,000. At least under current economic conditions and policies, Brexit alone would not sufficient to bring the target within reach. By Madeleine Sumption, director of the Migration Observatory, University of Oxford" http://ukandeu.ac.uk/would-leaving-the-eu-reduce-immigration-to-the-uk/

Have you guys seen this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26520836 Scrap 'on demand' postal voting to curb fraud, says judge. Postal voting is open to fraud on an "industrial scale" and is "unviable" in its current form, a top judge has said. Richard Mawrey QC, who tries cases of electoral fraud, told the BBC that people should not be able to apply for postal votes as a matter of course. "On demand" postal voting had not boosted turnout or simplified the process for the vulnerable, he said.

Sounds SriLankan to me?

Talking about reforming, I liked this part from a long post on another forum: "break down the size of the UK government and demand accountability and fiscal responsibility while genuinely improving our education system. The average standard of education is not good, we're breeding too many useless people, pushed through 'uni' to keep unemployment numbers low, with the result being that many of the hard working immigrants that we have here really put our own workers to shame. There are so many hard working immigrants here looking for those opportunities against a backdrop of homegrown loafers. I have nothing against anyone who wants to work, unfortunately they are not the only ones getting through, and we desperately need to correct the number of our own not working. It will take a generation to correct things and decent successive governments but one has to hope. Further integration is a failed experiment, people, cultures communities, they are different and should be celebrated for that regardless of how inconvenient that makes it for governments or what powers they loose in the process. We are already blindly handing over and accepting too much encroahchment on civil liberties, just the begining of what current let alone future technology will afford them. Banning of cash, spying on your phones, movements, associates etc all under the guise of anti terrorism. Enough. Freedom! Isn't that what our ancestors fought for, and what every battle has ultimately been about, yet politically we just sit back and accept things that we don't understand or have a grasp of slowly being eroded away"

What a surprise! It's everywhere, all the forums I visit, social media, meets etc... Would be nice to have proper debates and awareness campaigns before voting...

Seen this today on Facebook, worth a read and digging for some documents to see what's what: 'Turns out that a lot of people don't realise this... the ECHR is not a court of the EU. It is the highest court of the Council of Europe, formed with the UK as a founding member in the Treaty of London 1949. To cut a long story short, it was what our forefathers fought for. Our forefathers saw the horror of what happens when any group of people is considered to be subhuman, and decided that basic human rights should apply to all humans, regardless of their misdeeds and/or crimes. Clearly they knew full well that we wouldn't always like it, but that's kind of the point of Human Rights. ... and so we have those who complain that the ECHR and their pesky human rights prevented us from deporting Abu Hamza - but actually, they didn't. What the ECHR DID do was to hold us to our legal obligations under law that WE created - they placed a TEMPORARY injunction upon his deportation until they were satisfied that he was not going to be tortured or imprisoned without ANY possibility for release no matter how reformed he could ever possibly become in the future. Once they were satisfied, the injunction was lifted and he was indeed deported. We have the issue of life imprisonment, for example, with the killer of April Jones. The ECHR wouldn't let us give the killer a full life tariff without the possibility of release - so we explained that under extraordinary circumstances the Home Secretary could release such a prisoner, and the ECHR was OK with that. Again - that's the thing with having a basic standard for human rights applicable to every human regardless of crime or misdeed - it applies simply by virtue of their being human, and can prove to be a little awkward at times... but it's a hell of a lot better than allowing ANYbody to be treated as sub-human no matter how distasteful we find them - because that's the same kind of thinking that allows societies to end up moving from finding a scapegoat to gassing jewish people or the disabled. Our forefathers, who fought the second world war and who were so disturbed by what they saw and learned, knew this. So, before you vote to leave the EU on the basis of "those pesky do-gooding human rights", please consider where those human rights come from, why they exist, why they were created... by us... and the fact that they have absolutely naff all to do with leaving the EU. We are still subject to the ECHR - the law of which WE created for a better and more civilised world - whether we leave the EU or stay in it.'

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