Ricey

I really want to get into Urbexing - Chernobyl must be pretty amazing I think this one is in Russia somewhere - disused themepark Isn't that Chernobyl? Well I thought it was but I didn't want to give it the big I am and then someone say 'errrrm Ricey thats a picture of Skegness with a black and white filter on it'

I really want to get into Urbexing - Chernobyl must be pretty amazing I think this one is in Russia somewhere - disused themepark

Audi's are unreliable, overpriced and @*!#. The 'German engineering' is a myth Period BTW if anyone is interested mine is up for sale on here :-D

The fact this has dragged on for 5 pages basically says it all. Media sensation that fundamentally alters a nations (or the vast majority of it's) opinions on a subject because of a lack of understanding. 90% of the posts in this thread are bugger all to do with getting the long term JSA claimants out doing some work! Its such a none problem it's untrue! I bet the actual cost to the country in a year for this specific demographic of 'terminally unemployed' is about £100 mil which lets face it.........is feck all in this day and age. Specifically to this particular topic, benefit and proposal I'm catagorically telling you now there are not mythical hordes of scrotes sat on £71 a week for over 2 years laughing their tits off about how they've 'played the system'. Its pure and simple not happening.

dont bust your arse for a car mate..........I've spunked so much money over the last 7 1/2 years I could cry. Now I'm in a position where I've quit my job and believe me the 35k or so I could have had in the bank would be much appreciated !

Thats one sick whip!

Hard sell a private plate in this day and age mate. I've just left mine on the car - I can't be bothered with the hassle which is a shame. I've had my plate since I was 19. They're a bit of a luxury these days though.

Agree with your argument Pete but I guess you don't claim JSA. You'll be on incap benefit or ESA I should imagine? Thats what I'm on about - people get their knickers in a twist about people who are claiming JSA but they're actually talking about people (usually large families from poor socio-economic backgrounds - if we're getting the tar brush out) who take advantage of the system by claiming multiple lucrative benefits for either situations they've created for themselves or have near enough been born into. JSA is a pittance - its not enough to live off never mind have a jolly on.............not that I've ever claimed it but I've seen those that have first hand. It's all changing Ricey. They have made it almost impossible for people far worse off than I am to even aply for the lowest basic of benefits including amputees. For arguments sake. The question on the claims form used to say can you walk 50 meters without pain. Answer from an amputee should be no as they always feel pain especially at 1st. Now the question reads. Can you walk 50ft and no mention of pain! Well of course they can. They took off the pain bit. So now they loose what they had. And its happening to disabled ex forces up and down the Country. I may be blinkered because of the rotton deal they get. But yes I started off on the equivelent of JSA for a year after I came out of the forces. But then said rollox and went out and got a job but took pain killers to get me through the day. Now 30 years on it's the pain killers that have killed me in the literal sence. It's a very fine line Thing that pisses me off is how can the system fail someone like you or an amputee say but then be allowed to be exploited by some 10th generation scrotter. It's just not right and it surely cannot be that hard to fix FFS!

Agree with your argument Pete but I guess you don't claim JSA. You'll be on incap benefit or ESA I should imagine? Thats what I'm on about - people get their knickers in a twist about people who are claiming JSA but they're actually talking about people (usually large families from poor socio-economic backgrounds - if we're getting the tar brush out) who take advantage of the system by claiming multiple lucrative benefits for either situations they've created for themselves or have near enough been born into. JSA is a pittance - its not enough to live off never mind have a jolly on.............not that I've ever claimed it but I've seen those that have first hand.

Boggo JSA claimant assuming they are not able to home themselves elsewhise will get; JSA - £71.80 per week (£56.80 if under 25) Council tax benefit (which is a bit of a misleading statement..........just means they don't pay it). Housing benefit - IRO £256 per month (enough to rent a room in a house or pay for a hostle). Can you honestly say that your 'average' person claiming JSA is living the life of Reilly on what amounts to £286 per month? That covers your utility bills, water rates, phone (if you can afford one), transport, food, fags, alcohol, drugs ETCETC I'm not saying that there aren't people who abuse the system but seriously JSA cannot be seriously viewed as a preferrable lifestyle that people will chose over working! People are getting wound up about the wrong demographic - its the family who are all on ESA or disability because the parents have abused their body until they are unable to move and their 12 kids all have asthema or ADHD who get the carers allowance, masses of housing benefit because of the numbers in the household, council tax exemption........and on and on and on. Even smack rats are probably classed as diabled because they're addicts. You absolutely, catagorically CANNOT live a comfortable lifestyle on JSA unless someone else is propping you up (i.e a kid who lives with mam/dad and uses his JSA for a bit of a tear up each weekend).

300 million! FFS!

Please understand that I'm no great advocate of paying people to sit around doing nothing but I think your talking about a very specific group of people and not just the general public. A person on JSA gets way way less than is needed to 'survive'. A person creaming benefits after they've got a gateway benefit (usually when quite seriously ill or laden with a pack of sprogs) is potentially getting enough to 'survive'......and I use that word loosely. Looking at it on the flips side the whole thing is broken though. Take my mate..........I swear to God this is true. He was made redundant this year and got a redundo pay out of about 5k. He has at LEAST 50k savings in the bank and he drives a 21k Audi TTS. He's signing on at the moment (quite rightly as he's paid into the system all of his working life). He doesn't need the money by any stretch of the imagination but he's entitled to it so he claims. The people we get most 'annoyed' about tend not to be on JSA - I think you'll find they are the people who are off on long term sick (but we either don't understand or acknowledge there sickness - perhaps because on occasion its self inflicted), claiming for chavvies they can't afford. The benefits you can get are astonishing. This is a list of all benefits available from a .gov website. Attendance Allowance Back to Work Bonus Bereavement Payment Child Benefit Child's Special Allowance Child Tax Credit Cold Weather Payments, see also Winter Fuel payment Council Tax Benefit Constant Attendance Allowance Disability Living Allowance Income related Employment & Support Allowance Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance Guardian's Allowance Housing Benefit Incapacity Benefit Income Support Industrial Injuries Benefit Invalidity Benefit PAyments out of the Social Fund In-work emergency discretion fund payment In-work emergency fund payment Maternity Allowance Payments out of the Social Fund Pensioner's Christmas Bonus State Pension credit Reduced Earnings Allowance Retirement Allowance Return to work credit, including the self-emp credit Severe Disablement Allowance War Widow's pension Winter Fuel payment Working Tax Credit.

76 quid a week I think?

In his speech to the party conference in Manchester, the chancellor is expected to say that while the government will not "abandon" the long-term unemployed, no-one will be able to get something for nothing. This sort of statement does annoy me as well you know..............if a hard working tax payer claims JSA because they are made unemployed they are not getting 'something for nothing'. They're getting something for the 10's of thousands of pounds they've paid in taxes over the years. A scrotter who has paid nothing into the system but is 'terminally unemployed' (often confused with 'bone idle' but happy to slag off a Polish bloke who'll bust his arse working 12 hours a day that said scrotter wont) IS getting something for nothing.

Whilst I agree with it in essence I think there needs to be more of a carrot to psychologically get doleites out of the mindset of 'I've been getting money for nowt, now I've got to graft for the same money'. Maybe load it a little bit for those that do work - lets face litter picking and cleaning graffiti etc are going to be crap jobs that actually do a decent service to the community. Dole (JSA I assume this relates to?) is a pittance - it tends to be the people who are milking other benefits who are happy on benefits. I don't know many people who are 'happy' to live off £260 odd quid a month to be honest. Thankfully by making myself unemployed I won't be able to find out........and I'd rather it stayed that way!

Very closely guarded.......it'll be a 2002 Renault Megane convertible

Cheers Neily .....sorted

Custom made? Then you can have it however you like.

No one on here wants a derv No one on here wants an Audi No one on here wants a derv Audi for 15k But none the less I feel compelled to at least put the link up.................feel free to pass it on if you know anyone who may be interested http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201309289013567/sort/default/usedcars/fuel-type/diesel/model/tt/make/audi/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/60/page/2/postcode/ch35jy?logcode=p

I must admit I had it down as one of those 'so hard you'll all die but in reality its a bit of a muddy fun run' type things............then I saw the video of people passing out after being electroctued in the face - my opinion changed rather rapidly.

Christ........HellRunner was pretty tough in fairness. Moreso because of the cold than anything - we were stood neck height in a freezing lake for 40 minutes due to some sort of bugger up. Other than that I think it would have been 'fairly' easy. As it was I said I'd never do it again (......I'm doing it again in 4 weeks). I think there will be 2 of us doing it which I guess is enough to consititue a team?

Might have a cheeky last minute entry to the North West one a week Sunday. Anyone done it and have any likeness comparison? Did HellRunner last year which is sort of similar - same distance but more wading through bogs and swamps etc. Fitness wise I'm on or around half marathon standard road running and can lift reasonable weights in the gym (not that you could tell).................by reasonable I don't mean anywhere near the Neil's of the world but I can bench at least my own body weight. Any thoughts or tips.

The gayest Barry Boys in the village :wink:

I was getting a pair of rear Falken 452's on the rear for under £140 and this was on the OEM 17's (much better wheel than the OEM 16's) so I don't consider that expensive at all. The fronts will last two sets, even more, of rears. Due to the significant lack of torque compared to the Nissan, the tyres will last you longer and cost you less - generally. Fairpoint - I was forgetting they're smaller. Even so it still means slatting money at the car when the purpose is to free money up.

Unless you want to experience an S2000 I don't really see the point. Running costs a grim just like the zed. Parts will be mid price like the Zed. Running an S2000 on ditch finders when its a less forgiving car than the zed would be foolish so you'll end up spending a truckload on decent rubber. If your not freeing up decent amounts of cash and don't specifically want to try one then I wouldn't bother.