Ricey

I'm not spending any more money......straight swap for mine or he can bog off.

*sigh* Im going to end up buying it aren't I. Christ.......V8. Hilariously i spent a hour negotiating a 12 quid reduction on my sky bill during the week.......then less than 72 hour later I'm looking at V8's! I do love the look of that kit.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p I don't now why because a 5 liter V8 can clearly munch 100k and spit it out but for some reason the thought of having a car with 6 figures on the clock is scary

Ok i think I'm fairly set on a merc cl500 or a clk500 Clk appears to be the better car on the basis that the cl has a lot of niggles, it's over a second slower and has worse fuel consumption......it does however have air cooled massaging seats! Whilst we're on the subject of new cars though had anyone ever wondered why a 5 liter v8 has the same fuel consumption as the zed? Why would that be? It's not even significantly slower and it must weigh a lot more.....plus its an auto box

Spam me biatch!

It's funny cos it's true!

What a quality advert! GLWTS

To be honest mate you could probably spice it up a bit yourself with some spraying/wrapping. The brushed aluminum is quite nice but the plasics are really weird.....sort of solid but cheap looking (even the Zed looks better quality).

Meh its alright like. Interior; Dull. Reasonable quality but dull. Exterior; Very pretty in my opinion but its all lines which means a ding stands out a mile. The nose is appallingly low as well so its tough to judge kerbs. Handelling; Far more nimble than the zed. Definitely have more confidence to drive it harder. Performance; Acceptable. Noise is crap. Fast when thrashed but not very torquey. Ride; A 5 min journey can vibrate a turd through your entire intestinal tract and engage it ready for exit. BONE SHATTERING (runflats as discussed a million times). Gadgets; Hood is awesome (10 seconds and up or down). Sat Nav is literally the most useless thing I've ever seen. Sport button.........nice but whats the point? Just be on all the time. CD changer/CD interface retarded. Practicality; Stress of getting in is akin to an Elise but without the enjoyment. Boot is quality - fits a full sized suitcase! Cost; AVE 27.1 MPG over 3 tanks now with a few 'good runs'. Not bad for a 3 litre but you really feel it should be pumping more than 220BHP (newer ones do). Unfortunately I also had to spend £350 fixing the 'fault in the death star'.........the bullet proof engine has a rickety oil filter housing which can fail. Tyres are 300 quid a corner......thankfully mine had some meat on them. I have a few whacky and a few not quite so whacky ideas but they'e the usual boring 'other car' fodder.

Getting shut

Pretty sure myself and Colin both have legal experience, unless I'm getting Colin mixed up with someone completely different. I chose not to pursue a career in law, but certainly my time studying law at A Level wasn't entirely wasted albeit it was a while ago! I'm not saying that I'm a super huge expert, but I do have a rough clue what I'm talking about on this. I can't see the link between s13 of SOGA and what happened here? The description of the service supplied was accurate, tyres were changed and fitted, albeit incorrectly. It would more fall under s14 if anything, unless that's what you meant and it was merely a typo. Again though, the OP is going to have a tough time proving that the garage were the last ones to touch the tyres & wheels unless he literally drove straight out of their place and into the Autodrome. If they admit their mistake in writing (and more fool them if they do), then it's a completely different story. If anything (and we're all assuming the tyre was the cause of this crash, it could well be driver error and the tyre delaminated during the slide, not after) the claim would be against the garage and then via Vredestein themselves for supplying a tyre not fit for purpose, however you then need it sent away for expensive tests to prove this. Running it on track won't help your cause as they'll just say that it's a road tyre, not a track one, and no warranty under that usage is implied. Good call about the MOT mind, although that in itself isn't illegal (for example, a garage is fully allowed to fit a decat pipe to a car, it's up to the driver to ensure that the car will pass an MOT unless the original contract specifies otherwise). @Ricey: Would I go back and complain? As I've said, yes I would, but on the basis that a bit of complaining may get me something. Certainly any legal attempt at redress isn't going to work here due to the circumstances. Yes, I'd be pi**ed at the garage for not fitting the tyres correctly, but I'd accept fault as the driver and move on as the OP originally started to do before all this tyre stuff came out. Other than name and shame and try to get some karma back that way, this is a dead end and the OP would be better putting his efforts and money into getting the car sorted. If nothing else, this is a great example of why I won't do a TD in the 911 without track insurance. Haydn, RP and Ricey, I'm really not trying to pick at you guys, I sincerely mean that despite how this post comes across. You're all just trying to help the OP, as we all are on here, and tbh this is one of the better threads I've seen of late in terms of members trying to help one another. I simply just disagree with your points, certainly not your goals behind them. About the most non combative and well put across post I've seen from you Dan

I worked for Moneysupermarket.........worst company ever. They'll make a mint from this as they've effectivly purchased a load of click through revenue to other sites and also saved themselves millions that they had to pay MSE for click through to their own!

I don't think it is a good analogy because it would be unlikely that you could have performed that procedure yourself. quote] Clearly you've never seen what I can do with an endoscope.

I think the reason we disagree is that your a car brain and I'm a car mong so I get proper annoyed when I have to rely on someone to do something right and they don't. I woulnd't even think to check the wheels because I would expect that the experts got it right. You would check the wheels because your an experienced drifter and you know better than to take chances. RE getting something for nothing.......I agree Steve has little physical evidence and yet possibly driver error contributed but the garage should at least be asked to help with the repair (waive the dreaded, only charge cost, put a cap on the numbner of hours they'll charge labour). Problem is by doing they they essentially admit liability.

I feel like I've entered an alternate universe or something?!?!?!? Are you lot SERIOUSLY telling me that a garage has fitted a critical part of a car capable of 155mph.......specifically the part that attaches it to the road...........incorrectly (lets assume they have), you've consequently stuffed it and you couldn't quite put your finger on why - your telling me you would just sit there and spank your own dangle about it?!?!? This is exactly why I get fecked off with the world and its bloody incompetence: - Garage = Experts - Steve = Non-expert - Law = check your car is road worthy - Steves car = road worthy (otherwise how could you dirve with a space saver on). - Steves Car fit for a track = No because some bell fitted the wheels wrong Steve has discharged his duty you cannot reasonably expect him to check the work that he's pay several hundred quid undoubtely for an expert to do! If a surgeon wired my balls to my heart instead of my pecker its not my fecking place to be ramming an endoscope down my dingle to check!!!!!!!!! Experts have a duty of care to perform adequately for services rendered..........assuming Steveo hasn't been fiddling with his wheels then they have failed catastrophically. Nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I on the other hand will personally hunt you down and slap a wet kipper across your chops if you don't at least try to get them to help out with the repair......I'm not saying take them to the cleaners for the full whack but bollocks to the above.....for all we know (and the garage) your a total 'car mongo' and in my book you paid for a job to be done correctly....it wasn't and you crashed. Can we prove it was as a result of the wheels.....probably not......do the garage want you to kick up a public fuss? have trading standards knocking for a visit? Local paper? Probably not. Be nice first......get nasty later

I disagree, I'm not sure they would have performed safely in normal road conditions (if it interferes with tc, the diff and puts a lot of unneccessary heat on one side), but it would be more interesting to see from a legal standpoint. Reckon the police would have had something to say about it if he'd died in that crash. Some local builder is being tried for manslaughter round here because his firm built a wall that collapsed on a footpath and in as a little girl was walking passed with her family and killed her.

You get me to write them a letter

Jesus.........poor fecker could have been killed because (assumption I know) some assmunch garage doesn't know front from back. (this is where he tells us he changed his own discs)

I can't read the tyre sizes on this monitor to confirm, however, they'd have to have removed the bolt on the front wheels to mix the full wheels. Maybe they thought all the wheels were all the same, realized the front's wouldn't fit with the bolt in place and just put them the wrong way around to save time. If that's the case, how long ago were the tyres purchased and could there be a claim against the fitter? If its got spacers the bolt would have been taken off perhaps?

Damn missed it! That's could have been my first eBay duty!

I have to say; a) well done for stacking it on a track and not the road. well done for not coming up with some bullshit excuse about why it happened. I'm not sure if this makes sense but I don't see much option other than to repair. Your not insured so no write off payout - meaning your only recoup if you don't repair is flogged as salvage (which R35LEE may be interested in)........3k maybe? On the plus side as its outside of insurance it won't be registered as CAT-C or D write off so car will retain its value.

Mate i'd get scouring linkdin or something to find an ex-pat estate agent out there and just ask him/her if they mind you asking a few questions about working out there. Certainly wouldn't take this chimps word for it re the money.

I like that - expert in my field. The job is just as a an estate agent. THE MD says their lowest paid person in 2011 earned £70,000 tax free and the highest nearer £130,000. This month, he is just doing the pay run and one employee will be earning £40,000. The job is self-employed so no salary and you pay for your own flat, car and mobile - about £1500 per month out goings before food/drink etc. He has said that I should be expected to rinse £7-!0k before earning a penny. High risk but high reward. Now that sounds more risky. Isnt the property market on the bones of its arse after the initial years of booming in Dubai. Plus re the wages you've got to bear in mind that he is an estate agent so he'll be lying though his teeth