The G Man

If we didn't need a 5 door hatchback for running the messages (Scottish, look it up), which I bought last month for my good lady, a good part of that £21k would have went on this, what a looker Chris!! GLWTS

Is it not ? Nismo doesn't have fangs, it's also got trim round the wheel arches, the bloke ^^ there got it right.

It's not a Nismo

I've mostly stayed out of this debate because of the abuse and provocation I received from the Scottish referendum debate, and, while most of the comments against my arguments were diatribe, it just isn't worth the hassle from the usual suspects (you know who you are), on this debate. I wore my heart on my sleeve and wasn't afraid to stand up for what I believe in. But I must say, and it PAINS ME GREATLY, Adrian and latterly -G-, have presented the most eloquent and thought provoking arguments and FACTS so far. Dust will settle, but the average Brexit leave voter, IMO, had no idea what they were voting for. The Brexit Brigade had no idea what they stood for, immigration, not immigration, better laws for workers, more jobs for Brits blah blah blah!! As Bockaaark posted, where's the 'right, we won, here's how it's going to work' £350 million a week, pales into insignificance compared to the BoE's £250 billion straight away!! to allay the markets, what a crock of sh1te, the mostly uninformed leave voters backed, IMHO. Well done Adrian and -G-,

Actually, from my RX8, 370 GT, 370 Nismo, putting them back to stock was a pleasurable experience, no purgatory, just a pleasant change. It actually, on all three occasions, nearly made me change my mind and keep the respective cars. They're not that bad stock, just slightly better with a pen aftermarket on, probably just massages the ego rather than making any of them fire breathing monsters. Once you get the *** * ****, it'll be interesting to see if you change the exhaust, given the similarities.

Try Asda, no kidding, their prices are very competitive, that's where I'll be looking once my P Zero pieces of @*!# are line locked into history

Don't think it cost me that much when I bought it new Good luck with the sale

This is true, David Attenborough told me himself

No mate, I own the house next door, one of my daughters lives in it . Had a neighbours lad, 24 year old, round tonight to have a good gawp, took him for a wee cabbie

, thanks Humpy, someone has already used that phrase

Update on some additions, FRPP Track Suspension, 23MM rear, 25mm front spacers, Big Worm Graphics Super Snake stripe and side GT Stripe, Diode Dynamic LED Rear Side Marker Lights, Steeda Bonnet Struts all fitted in the last couple of days. Geometry done by Automek, full fast road set up. Some pics Before After

Oh yeah the motorist

We need a Donald Trump Well, some well considered arguments in this discussion, mostly by the 'in' crowd. But the voting in the poll would suggest that the 'UKIPers' amongst us would win the argument if that was replicated nationwide. However, my thought on that is that as a car community, it is almost inconceivable that our swing wouldn't be right of centre. Hopefully, the electorate of the south, will see more sense and vote 'in'. It's probably the only thing that's going to stop the Tories from continuing to rob pension funds, be that state or occupational. Secretly, well not a secret anymore , I hope the UKIP trend continues in the south, just the tipping point to create the wake up needed to constitute a radical UK rethink (waits for the anti Scottish Nationalist flaming, subsidy junky nonsense ) Whatever happens, the idea that the UK will return to a 'jumpers for goalposts' society will never happen.

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Half the price though Keep us informed

I've had two 370s, one a GT and one a Mk1 Nismo. What a lot of people don't realise on here with regards to the Mk1, is the suspension set up. Superior in every way to the GT, a different class over a 350. I did some basic suspension mods to my GT, a set of Eibach Pro's, had an Akropovic Evo true dual exhaust, was UpRevved, but the Nismo would smash it all day long on twisties, fact. (Ask Gstraw on here, he couldn't believe it when I gave him a cabbie, he has a 370 GT) You will get a lot of negative opinion about a Nismo on here, from some that have never even driven one, never mind owned one. The servicing on a 370 is inexpensive. As a track car, I've no idea, but if it's mostly for track, get a stripped out MX 5 like Ekona has, you'll have more fun. As Ebized has said, as for a fast, fun and well equipped GT, it's in a good price bracket. One or two things about a 370, the road noise is pretty bad, not enough steering wheel adjustment (only up or down, no in or out) and my Mrs always complained that, as a passenger, it wasn't the most comfortable of, erm, rides It is a looker, gets loads of compliments and attention and the equipment level is very good. I've no real idea on a Porsche or TT RS, no doubt very capable cars, for me, now a 'redneck', they both have an image problem in my eyes. The Audi, because the company that produces them are cheating bast3rds, and the Porsche, if not the right one, is a wannabe statement. You won't wring a lot of extra oomph from a 370 without spending serious cash and going FI, but as was mentioned, unless you're getting one really cheap, it might be the wrong car if you require that level of power. Anyway, good luck in your search, buy one off a club member, it'll be looked after and not at a dealer premium.

There was a nice Mk1 on here recently for a fiver under £25k

Absolutely, the FRPP Track Pack takes it down an inch or so, having a couple of other bits fitted to suit the pack and a 'fast road' geometry set up, sway bars set to the softest to start with Lustre Nickel is this seasons new black

The convertible, if you were to get another one, is a stunner with the roof down, just get one will, it's a no brainier for the money , and, next year for 2017 registered cars, the VED is cheaper

Unfortunately he got the "Custom pack" which is why the wheels and window trim are silver/chrome, shame really as they look very aggressive in black - but it's not my car so I'm glad OP got what he wanted Still insanely jealous, over a year away from placing my order still -.- Not unfortunate mate, it's what I chose . I don't mind darker wheels, the Nismo wheels were a lovely colour, not too dark. Black wheels is something I've never been keen on. It's an individual thing I will be adding the odd, darker accent soonish and getting the plastic splitter, sills and rear diffuser painted, just matte black nothing too abnormal. I'll post pictures as soon as I get the Track Pack on, just waiting on some front camber bolts at the mo

Black mate, Ceramic is what they call the light leather, it's sort of creamy silvery beige, sort of

This was a funny read, some of it true, some of it just funny, made me smile http://www.roadandtr....hings-to-come/ By Jack Baruth Achtung, baby! There's a new sporting-coupe king in Germany, and it's named after the mighty P-51 fighter that cleared the skies over Bavaria some 73 years ago. In March, the Ford Mustang outsold the Porsche 911, the Porsche Cayman, the Porsche Boxster, and the Audi TT. It's not a matter of Germans having a nose for a bargain, either; a plain-Jane five-liter GT costs about 50 grand overseas compared to the $32,395 base price in the States. It appears that Mustang ownership justifies premium pricing in the land of the Nurburging and the autobahn. What's going on? The revitalized 'Stang, which threatened to take the 2015 PCOTY crown as a five-liter GT before finally winning top honors in 8200-rpm GT350R trim, has been a huge success on this side of the Atlantic as well. Yet there's still a whiff of redneck-chic about the original ponycar and its customer base, and there's still a lot of contempt for the nameplate among the sports-car cognoscenti. There's nothing the Internet car-enthusiast demographic loves more than trashing stereotypical Mustang owners. A rash of recent high-profile crashes at car-club meets has spawned all sorts of drama, up to and including tongue-in-cheek petition on the White House website to ban Mustangs from public car shows. Part of the problem is that the 1979 "Fox body" Mustang and its immediate successors were both hugely popular and remarkably durable, so there are still a lot of them around. There was a Dodge Challenger back in '79 as well, a re-badged Japanese-market Mitsubishi Galant coupe, but those cars had a half-life just slightly longer than that of nobelium-253, so they were all safely recycled into Haier dishwashers well before Dodge brought the nameplate back as a rip-snorting HEMI-powered RWD coupe. No surprise, then, that various and sundry misconceptions about the Mustang and its capabilities continue to run rampant everywhere from Cars and Coffee to your local NASA trackday. There's nothing that BMW and Porsche owners like better than looking down their noses at Mustangs. Show up in a new Mustang to a lapping day and you'll hear all the cliches: The Mustang is heavy, it doesn't steer or stop well, it wallows in turns, the rear end is uncontrollable, and it just loves to exit the track tail-first. None of that's really true. The Mustang isn't a lightweight, but the GT350R comes within a hundred pounds or so of a BMW M4. The steering in the new car is almost sublime, and if you aren't satisfied with the available Brembo brakes, the aftermarket will bring you all the way up to IMSA standards for less than half the cost of a single replacement OEM Porsche ceramic brake disc. Every model in the current lineup handles remarkably well, and the GT350 is almost in a class of its own among four-seat performance cars. As far as it being a tail-happy crash magnet . . . well, it kind of is, but you can authentically apply the same sobriquet to the M4, the 911 GT3, and the AMG-fettled two-door Benzes. If you haven't driven a Mustang lately, or if your opinion of the brand is based on experience with the old live-axle cars, you'll be quite surprised by the 2016 model. Somewhat ironically, it has the same basic engine lineup as the '79 Fox body: 2.3-liter turbo four, mid-size V6, and five-liter V8. That's where the similarities begin and end. The fit and finish stands up against anything Germany or Japan can offer. The interior is both classic and modern, with brilliant seats and up-to-the-minute infotainment. There's plenty of feedback available from the steering wheel, and the controls all operate with the same solid authority you'd get in an Audi. On the move, the big Ford is smooth, quiet, and light on its feet. The GT and GT350 are equally comfortable doing triple digits on the open freeway and clipping down to the apex point on a narrow two-lane. No car of this size has ever been this comfortable on fast back roads. The overall driving experience is remarkably Germanic, and there are clear commonalities between the locally designed Mustang and the global ST-model Focus and Fiesta. In fact, if I can be slightly heretical for a moment, the only real differences between the current Mustang and the best of the current BMW lineup are the high door sills . . . and the availability of a manual transmission with all the engine choices. Oh, snap! Don't take my word for it, though. Just ask any German performance enthusiast. Clearly the Mustang has made an impression with the buyers over there. It's chewing through the local heroes the way the supercharged-Merlin-engined P-51 made short work of the Focke-Wulf FW190. It's true that the 911 GT3RS can leave any Mustang for dead around a racetrack, but even in its home country, the fastest Porsche sports car is a rare and expensive sight. Think of it as an Me262, right down to the, shall we say, involved servicing requirements. Of course, the German car fanatics who read R&T will say that the March sales numbers represent an isolated incident, a perfect storm of inventory availability and the same occasional fascination with American novelty that causes so many tourists from der Vaterland to follow Michael Schumacher's example and spend their summers riding Harleys on Route 66. But what if it's not? What if it's a perfectly reliable indicator of things to come? After all, the German automakers have spent the last 15 years tirelessly engineering the last vestiges of character and authentic heritage out of their automobiles. The same industry that once presented its customers with a wide variety of iconoclastically engineered choices is now locked in a tail-chasing circle of imitative, unoriginal product. The aircooled 911, the Ro 80, the 450SEL 6.9, the original blacked-out BMW M5—they're all gone, replaced by a bunch of monstrous SUVs that can make the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs but which are all fundamentally the same loathsome lump of self-destructing electronics and fragile AWD powertrains. Let's imagine for a moment that this isn't just an anomaly and that the German enthusiasts are tired of driving interchangeable transportation pods. They want something real. Something different. Something American. The Mustang will continue to sell. Pretty soon the mighty roar of the Challenger Hellcat will be heard bellowing its way across the last unrestricted sections of the autobahn. Parking lots from Berlin to Bonn will overflow with Wranglers. You'll see a Corvette around every corner. And what's that squared-off silhouette in the distance? Is that . . . a Ford Flex at the Cologne train station? No matter what happens, there's a lesson to be learned from this sudden Euro-Mustang mania. American automakers got pretty lazy and self-satisfied during the so-called Malaise Era of the late Seventies and Eighties, which opened the door for the German automakers to bring us fascinating and characterful cars. Can you imagine picking a Lincoln Versailles over a BMW 528i, or choosing a downsized deVille over a Cosworth-powered Mercedes 190E 2.3-16? 

 If German buyers are choosing Mustangs over the increasingly bland and indistinguishable offerings from their home team—well, that's a warning that should ring loud and clear in boardrooms across the Continent. The last time something like this happened, back in 1944, the German response was to develop secret weapons like the Dornier 335 and the infamous rocket-powered Komet. Given a choice, enthusiasts will choose character and style pretty much every time. That's how BMW conquered the American back road, and it's how the Mustang is winning the battle of the autobahn.

IMO, the 350 looks dated against a 370, although, apart from the Nismo versions, the 70 is starting to look a small, tiny bit dated. Been a few reports of the Eco Boost trouncing a 370, but I'd take that with a pinch of salt, it'll be close and a simple tune of the Eco Boost would edge it.

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