Land Rover in 5th gear you mean But i agree with what you say, i can take my landy round a corner at 60mph in 5th and it'll stick like glue (albeit with the cab leaning at a 45 degree angle and me leaning in to it) but if you plant your foot in 2nd gear in the zed round the same corner of course you're asking for trouble. At the end of the day i think we've all found that point where we realise that rwd is a bit more exciting than we realised. I'm just glad i found that at 15mph on a wide wet road. Once bitten twice shy.