spursmaddave

I dunno, I get better fuel economy from the BMW than I do from the truck!

 

As for the 370 diesel, just look at how popular the derv TT is.

I average just under 30 in the Jag, it has been as high as 50 on a cruise down to Cornwall and as low as 14 on a hoon in Wales with my mates that very nearly set fire to my front discs and calipers

Not sure you can compare your Beemer and a truck, I have had a couple of diesels, my Leon and my Jag and from talking to guys on forums I have got about 50% better economy than if I had the petrol equivalent, and not lost out on performance too much either. Unless you count top end power over 80/90mph which you don't get to enjoy too much on the road, mid range grunt is epic, I have to admit on a long run I quite often overtake a load of cars and then let them all catch up just so I can do it again

The thing with diesels is the wrong people buy them i.e. People who will not do many miles and short trips. I honestly fail to see the point of small diesel cars, the engines are designed to do lots of miles but why would you do lots of miles in a small car?

Modern big powerful diesels are fantastic and anyone who says they are not has not driven one Yep there is zero exhaust/engine noise and if I could have afforded it I would have had the petrol V8 in my Jag, but I enjoy driving it every bit as much as I did my Zed :

 

we used to get this at SEAT as it would clogg the DPF filters try explaining to a customer they bought the wrong car for what their doing then seem them storm off to the salesman who sold them the car

As much as it's the salesmans job it is also for the customer to be aware. My brother in law bought a Mazda 6 estate diesel, him & my sister are both retired so do just shopping runs etc, within 6 months the car had been back to the dealer with DPF problems about 4/5 times then just before the warranty ran out it went back again and they said they could clear it but really it needed a new DPF at £1,500 so they got rid for a Seat Estate (can't remember the model) with a petrol engine

I'd rather my truck had a big V8 than the 3.2L I5 diesel lump. I'm sure I'd get better fuel economy out of it, too.

Most people would, I don't think anyone chooses a diesel because they prefer the engine to a petrol one, no chance you would get anywhere near the economy though. I average 50% better in my 3l V6 diesel compared to the 5l V8

If there was a diesel 370z I bet it would sell just as well as the petrol rightly or wrongly

If it was that bad nobody would be talking about it...

The thing with diesels is the wrong people buy them i.e. People who will not do many miles and short trips. I honestly fail to see the point of small diesel cars, the engines are designed to do lots of miles but why would you do lots of miles in a small car?

Modern big powerful diesels are fantastic and anyone who says they are not has not driven one Yep there is zero exhaust/engine noise and if I could have afforded it I would have had the petrol V8 in my Jag, but I enjoy driving it every bit as much as I did my Zed :

^^ :lol: ........... from someone who blew up his engine last year

I thought that too

Yes you could find a Zed on high mileage that is a peach hopefully, all the things I mentioned are consumables and need to be taken in to account that's all

So you manage to find a 100k+ car for £5k, reassure yourself that it has been run on 98 then in the first year you need new tyres, clutch & flywheel and disc/pads all round, that would be almost 50% of the cars worth, if you can afford all that then go for it, if not then think again

 

I get your point but maintenance is a separate issue altogether, there won't be a problem in this department. I know the requirements of the car and that's in the budget.

 

So why not spend more money on a better car? Perhaps one that's already had the clutch and other bits done?

 

For example you could prob pick a very good forum car up with all the major bits done and less milage for 7k.......chances are if it's a forum car at least you've got a chance of someone regularly running it on super for a period of time.

 

Seriously he's not exaggerating when he says 50% of the value.

That was my point, going cheap with the budget could be a false economy, worrying about what fuel has been used is a bit of a moot point really, no way you will ever know for sure...

I always take the 'average' as being the best you will ever see on a really nice long run, has been about right on almost ever car I have owned...

So you manage to find a 100k+ car for £5k, reassure yourself that it has been run on 98 then in the first year you need new tyres, clutch & flywheel and disc/pads all round, that would be almost 50% of the cars worth, if you can afford all that then go for it, if not then think again

Unfortunately as the cars themselves become cheaper so do some owners, why not check what tyres are on the car and ask about discs and pads that might give you a heads up on if it has been run on a budget

Wasn't the worst episode iv seen. Quite liked the lambo review. I know what they mean about it not being a radical design but I quite like it

 

I know nothing about bikes but didn't think you could get one under a kilo

 

For £9k I would expect it to bloody float!

For £9K I'd want it to have a bl**dy engine.

Wouldn't mind this engine with it

Wasn't the worst episode iv seen. Quite liked the lambo review. I know what they mean about it not being a radical design but I quite like it

 

I know nothing about bikes but didn't think you could get one under a kilo

For £9k I would expect it to bloody float!

Good job I asked about Leeds, otherwise I would have ended up at the wrong end of the country. Best not let me lead the convoy

Could be worse, we could follow Graham and end up at a Kent Hop Farm

Just for Will

As we have to be there all day it would seen rude not to organise some kind of "picnic"?

Bob and Chris are going can we afford this?........

Who ate all the pies.... who ate all the pies....

1) AmyZed

2) Grundy

3) Dunks

4) DDay

5) Blaqkaudio

6) Pritchard

7) kite 350

8) Ogman

9) octet

10) Gumpy000

11) glrnet

12) MadMarky

13) Will370z

14) Buster + mrs Buster

15) willetts 118

16) Andy James + greedy girl

17) Paddy78 +1

19)

 

Non stand attendees:

1) SMD (but I won't be taking a Zed place on the stand, just don't want to miss a close meet with lots of mates there!)

2) Darren-B Doubt the 240 will be finished by this time & don't want to hog some else's place if it's not.

I can pick you up on the way, no point taking 2 cars

Same old stuff

The photography/film work is exceptional, just a shame the 3 old farts can't be replaced...

I won't moan, I will just keep watching hoping for something new not just a rehash of what has gone before

Great shots Grundy!

As said its fab to see your car back on the road.

Good turnout today and nice to meet a few new faces along with the usuall suspects! Lol.

Bloody roadworks on the M3/M25 were painfull!

 

Big to Andy & Matt for putting in some serious miles to get to Sevenoaks

 

Don't give matt too much credit, he had an easy trip from west Sussex this morning.

Always easy when you have an engine in the car

Matt "that was further than I thought"

Doesn't beat Will 'it's a long way to Leeds'

Pleasure to arrange for such a great bunch of people on what has to be one of the best car forums around.See you all again soon..

Here here Martin, I haven't been on here much lately and the meet today might just lure me back for a bit

Great shots Grundy!

As said its fab to see your car back on the road.

Good turnout today and nice to meet a few new faces along with the usuall suspects! Lol.

Bloody roadworks on the M3/M25 were painfull!

Big to Andy & Matt for putting in some serious miles to get to Sevenoaks

Was stood with Alfie as Grundy arrived, all noise, BGW and stickers and Alfie looked up at me and said 'Daddy, thats a ladies car'

Spot on I would say

Good turnout and nice to see some old friends

Great turnout!

 

This is more like a Wales reunion meet

 

There is a healthy 'other car' section too as I make it a Jag, an Audi, an Merc AMG, a Ford and a Skoda at least

 

Makes me feel a bit younger

Doesn't the Burberry cap make you feel younger

Great turnout!

This is more like a Wales reunion meet

There is a healthy 'other car' section too as I make it a Jag, an Audi, a Merc, a Ford and a Skoda at least

Thanks James, unfortunately the sub isn't dual voice which I believe is what I need for my Jag, real bargain though I am sure someone will snap it up!