I was really shocked actually. Just shows, when I first put the Stillen on, I nearly took it straight off as it felt so loud, but very quickly I adapted to it and it just gave the car its bark back. Grown so used to it it was quite a shock once it was off. I can't say the rusting has got any worse since the last time I was under the car which is a good things - why they didn't use SS welds I'll never know. I've not got the exhaust back yet, it'll get dropped off my ATS tomorrow probably, so will have a go at cleaning it up and then circulate photos to everyone who's asked