HaHa, I've had another 2 s13s and a 14 since then, and a Discovery, Astra and 2 Series Landys, Micra went to the scrapyard in the sky, still into my landrovers at the mo but I bought my girlfriend a Eunos Roadster (MX5) and we're always over the Lakes camping so may have a look to this, obviously I wouldnt be expecting free camping etc... not being an active member of the forum.