Chesterfield

Well that was the shortest lived dabble with getting back in the Z game then.

So, Ive been away from the fold for quite some time, and Im well out of touch with the Z scene. Ive recently sold my "toy" car, and as per usual it doesnt take long before I've got the bug to get another one, even though I said I'd give it a couple of years. The usual wrestling between heart and head over the sort of cars I wanted to replace the toy with began, and then we got the bank holiday heatwave. The posts on facebook from the club at Japefest looked great and the Mrs and I both recalled the fun times with the club several years ago. Even spotted my old car on the pics. So, fast forward and we both thought that we could justify a 370z roadster. In no way was the alcohol on the most sunny bank holiday for decades influencing this decision. When we saw that they have recently announced the new 370z in an almost candy apple "infra" red colour that looks very similar to the wifes twingo that she loves, that more or less sealed the deal. Then I popped into our local Nissan garage. No 370z in sight, and I was told that they are only sold from specifc outlets. I knew this used to be the case for the GTR - I guess it still is, but is this now the case for the Z too? I was told the nearest one from their franchise was in Scotland, but one from another franchise may be located in Leeds - Im in Chesterfield. Am I really into having to travel to a special dealer to buy a 370? Also, when trying to price one up or specify one online, I cant find any price list which includes the roaster, nor does it appear on the configurator? Do Nissan still sell the roadster in the UK?

1) Humpy 2) kbad 3) Zeus(in 350z) 4) AaronC350z 5) wez370 +1 (370z) 6) Wendy 7) stevod 8) Wasso 9) CJRamze 10) cov350z (350z) 11) 350Russ 12) ollydykins 13)Valy 14) modo 15) shad0wca7 16) Irn Bru +1 350z 17) Andymac183 18) Hodaka +1 19)nissanman312+1 20) Amyzed 21) ZeppoJeff (350z) 22) Ekona +1 23) Dicaprio +1 24) Davedutch + 1 25) SHEZZA + 1 (350Z) 26) -G- +1 (380RS) - Date Dependant 27) Harryjax +1 28) Andy_Muxlow +1 29) Scott_f91 (370Z) 30. Nso93 31. kentar0 32. buster + mrs buste 33. Justthejedi +1 34. Chesterfield +1

Now who's making assumptions and generalising without facts?

Called out on what? Stating that the young didn't bother to vote and now are the main group shouting "I doth protest". Then having that compared to racism? Like it's anywhere close? For offending you? Get over it. Be offended. I don't really care. Admins get moderated here just as members do. They've even been banned in the past.

Starting to realise why I no longer have the interest here that I used to. Way too many self righteous pricks looking for arguments, sucking up moderator and admin time on pathetic childish sh*t. The young are incensed that the "old" stole their freedom, but did sweet FA about going out to vote. They are the facts whether you like it or not.

So what we're really arguing about here is the omission of a quantifying noun. How's about: Majority of youngsters don't care about voting, and minority really do.

Sorry, just noticed this. But making generalisations about a nation when arguing that it may cause offence to make generalisations.. really?

He would have just cause to be, as there would be no basis to make judgements that Romanians are lazy or apathetic to voting. Whereas there are plenty of reports and studies into lower youth voting turnout. And it's not just a UK problem either.

We're it not for the facts, that would be true. Just one example of a report into youth voting apathy. http://irep.ntu.ac.uk/9789/1/196450_334.pdf Also, why do these people suddenly become bothered or able to vote later in life?

Got to do with this: You've made two separate comments. Your first comment is unfounded and based on your preconceptions of a generation (prejudice) Other than my first statement being based on the factual evidence of the second. Which kind of blows a slight hole in the "prejudice" part of your argument.

It's not prejudice and stereotypical though is it? Majority of those protesting are the young. Group with the lowest voter turnout is the young. Be offended if you like. It's true.

Typical attitude from the youth of today. Expect everything to be handed on a plate, kick up a fuss when something doesn't go their way, but do absolutely naff all toward achieving what they want. Would be interesting to know how many of those out protesting actually bothered to vote.

Britain holds some. Not all. As before it's a game of who blinks first. If there is any backlash or uprising against the EU'still superstate proposal (which in my opinion is frighteningly similar to the "final solution" proposed by a failed Austrian painter several decades ago), then we may see the EU blink first. But we will need to dig deep in the UK before that happens. How much pressure can be piled on before Boris or whoever simply states "balls to that, better riots on our own streets than financial meltdown. We're staying in." At which point expect a raft of incoming red tape and legislation to teach us for being a naughty trouble maker.

To get even a 40k GTR that's going to take a decent sized spreadbet and the ability of cover a decent margin. Though I could point out the irony of bemoaning the downturn in the economy and then placing a short on the very currency that you are bemoaning the losses on